In this powerful episode, singer and former American Idol finalist Daniel Gokey reveals what he calls his “deep, dark secret”—scrupulous OCD. For the first time publicly, he shares how obsessive religious thoughts convinced him he was beyond forgiveness. Dr. Amen explains this misunderstood OCD subtype and how Gokey’s brain scans uncovered the root of his terrifying thoughts—and helped chart a path to overcoming scrupulosity.

00:00 Intro

01:17 Sponsor

02:26 Daniel/Scrupulous OCD

05:22 OCD and Sin

08:36 Fear of Damnation

12:41 Compulsive Behaviors

16:14 Thought Discipline

20:40 The Concept of “Normal”

22:10 Medication & Supplements

23:55 Trauma

26:59 First Wife’s Death

30:16 ADD

31:21 The 4 Circles

37:56 Daniel’s SPECT Scan (Surface)

39:55 Daniel’s SPECT Scan (Active Interior)

44:47 Improving Daniel’s Brain

48:23 Sponsor

49:49 Wrap Up