DBT and Me

By Michelle Henderson and Kate ShermanHealth & Fitness

DBT and Me episodes

October 28 DBT and Neurodivergence with Sarah Mireles
Kate and Michelle are joined by Sarah Mireles for a conversation about DBT and neurodivergence. Each of them share their own lived experiences with neurodivergence at the beginning of the episode. Sarah shares what DBT and RO-DBT skills may be most helpful for neurodivergent individuals and how they can adapt DBT to work for them. She also provides suggestions for parents of neurodivergent teens, DBT group leaders, and partners/friends who love someone who is neurodivergent.

Want to learn more about Sarah? Check out her websites: www.sarahmirelestherapy.com and www.parentsofneurodiverseteens.com. You can also follow her on Instagram and YouTube @sarahmirelestherapy.

Here are some other helpful resources Sarah recommends:
International OCD Foundation - https://iocdf.org/
Attention Deficit Disorder Association (ADDA) - https://add.org/
National Autism Association (NAA) - https://nationalautismassociation.org/

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If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
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Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme
Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/
Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme
You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast
Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)
If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
1 hr 26 min
October 12 Q & A Episode 75
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about changing reactive responses, moving from someone you love and grad school experiences, DBT resources for bipolar disorder, and using radical acceptance to cope with obsessive thoughts.
Related to the listener's question about resources for DBT for bipolar disorder, you can check out the DBT workbook for Bipolar Disorder here (https://www.amazon.com/Dialectical-Behavior-Therapy-Workbook-Disorder/dp/1572246286) and listen to this podcast episode (https://open.spotify.com/episode/0FbilUA7gUw6Hrij2f4oYq?si=L_VbH5EfQ6SNzLbMcntzuA)
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If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617
Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme
Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/
Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme
You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast
Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)
40 min
September 30 DBT Skills for Media Consumption
Whether it's watching the news or reading status updates/articles on social media, it's impossible to avoid the influx of news stories and media that we are constantly surrounded by. With some recent stories in the news that have been challenging to hear, Kate and Michelle each choose a DBT skill from each module and share how that skill can be helpful when consuming media.

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If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617
Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme
Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/
Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme
You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast
Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)
If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
45 min
August 26 What We Know About Skills Now That We Wish We Knew Then
Learning DBT skills takes time and practice to truly understand and integrate what the skills actually look like in our lives. Kate and Michelle each discuss three DBT skills they once misunderstood. They explain their former belief about each skill compared to their current understanding. Kate chose wise mind, mindfulness and check the facts while Michelle chose PLEASE, GIVE and being non-judgmental.
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If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617
Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme
Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/
Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme
You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast
Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)
If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
53 min
July 29 Mega Q & A Episode 4
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about worrying whether or not a family member wants you to live with them, talking to a friend who is self-harming about DBT, CBT vs. DBT, practicing mindfulness with ADHD, coping with stonewalling from an ex, wanting a friend to celebrate an achievement with you, fearing getting into a relationship, and coping with limerence.

TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 9:17-16:13

Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme
If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617
Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme
Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/
Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme
You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast
Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)
If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
1 hr 32 min
June 24 Episode Re-Do: Opposite Action
It's time for a re-do! When Kate and Michelle first recorded this episode, it was during COVID which resulted in poor sound quality as they adjusted to recording virtually.

In this special re-recorded episode, they explain opposite action all over again, providing new personal examples to help explain the skill.

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If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617
Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme
Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/
Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme
You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast
Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)
If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
1 hr 22 min
June 15 Q & A Episode 74
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about when to learn coping skills for anger, questioning if DBT can work when there's resistance, obsessing over unresolved situations, and coping with getting fired from a job.

Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme
If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617
Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme
Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/
Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme
You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast
Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)
If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
47 min
May 27 Mega Q & A Episode 3
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about moving past hurt feelings, disrespectful in-laws, betrayal by multiple people, finding a "gray area" with harmful behavior, how to get to know yourself, hypervigilance about a partner's change in tone, seeing a friend who has blocked you, and skills for being in a struggling marriage.

TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 42:39-42:41.

Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme
If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617
Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme
Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/
Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme
You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast
Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)
If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
1 hr 26 min
April 29 Embracing Your BPD Diagnosis with Sara Abbott
Kate and Michelle are joined by fellow therapist Sara Abbott, host of the Bold Beautiful Borderline podcast, to discuss her journey with being diagnosed with BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder). Sara talks about early childhood experiences, difficulties with relationships as an adult, and what's helped her the most with finding her wise mind. Sara shares inspirational reminders and advice that will be helpful to anyone who is finding it challenging to accept their mental health struggles.
TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 16:11-18:15 and from 33:33-34:10.
Sara's podcast website: https://www.boldbeautifulborderline.com/

Follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boldbeautifulborderline

Listen to Sara interview Kate and Michelle on her podcast by going to Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bold-beautiful-borderline/id1523899329) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/4dIQIIngQGADkDJAXglRnH); episode release dates are April 5, 2026 and April 12, 2026.
Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme
If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617
Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme
Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/
Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme
You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast
Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)
If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
55 min
March 25 From 13-Year Old Immigrant to DBT Therapist: Diana Ramirez's Story
Michelle is joined by therapist Diana Ramirez who shares her incredible story of coming to the United States from Honduras when she was 13 as an unaccompanied minor. Having no idea what DBT was, she can look back now at her past and see how she was using DBT skills along the way to help her overcome the obstacles she was facing. She shares DBT skills that can be useful for other immigrants and talks about how she uses DBT personally for herself and professionally with her clients.
TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 12:06 to 12:41 and 15:17-16:34.
Want to learn more about Diana? Follow her on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/psychologydailycare/ (@psychologydailycare).
Support the show
Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme

If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617

Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme

Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/

Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme

You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast

Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)

If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]

52 min

About DBT and Me

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Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) was created by a woman named Marsha Linehan in the 1980s. The skills she created are now taught all over the world. DBT can improve depression, anxiety, borderline…