Dirt And Vert

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, it's a special episode with your hosts, David, Matt, and Mary, as we dive into our recent race experiences, the highs, the lows, and the grit it takes to keep showing up!

Matt's sharing all the secrets behind his incredible course record at Johnston Woods – 60.9 miles of pure determination! We'll get into his fueling strategies and what it took to push past the limits. Mary opens up about her own recent race, facing down some tough health challenges and finding strength in unexpected places, even sharing how vision therapy played a part.

This isn't just about the miles; it's about the journey within. We're talking about the critical role of nutrition, prioritizing mental health, and the unwavering support of our running community that pulls us through. Every race teaches us something new, and we're sharing those hard-won lessons, our future goals, and the constant balancing act of training and life.

Get ready for an honest, inspiring chat about pushing boundaries, learning from every stride, and the power of the family you find on the trails.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Race Updates

00:30 Matt's Race Performance and Strategy

02:51 Nutrition and Caffeine Management

05:50 Race Recovery and Future Plans

10:40 Mary's Experience with Cruel Jewel

19:54 Training and Preparation Insights

27:57 Race Day Challenges and Reflections

39:49 Facing Health Challenges During Races

42:23 The Importance of Listening to Your Body

44:54 Navigating Life's Stressors and Racing

47:57 Training and Mental Toughness

50:40 Managing Stress and Recovery

53:46 Upcoming Races and Future Goals

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up and diving into the incredible journey of Kyle Kraeft, an ultra runner who knows a thing or two about pushing through when everything screams "STOP!"

Kyle takes us back to his very first steps into the ultra world, sharing the raw, real challenges he faced in those early races and the hard-earned lessons that shaped him. We'll hear about his leaps to longer distances, including his first 100K and the notorious Georgia Death Race, where he faced physical and mental hurdles that would break most people.

But what truly sets Kyle's story apart is his unflinching honesty about hitting that infamous mile 100 wall. He'll share the struggle, the doubt, and that pivotal moment of renewed determination that propelled him forward. It's a powerful reminder that sometimes, the most profound growth comes from intentionally stepping into discomfort.

Kyle also digs into his training strategies, his crucial hydration and nutrition plans, and the gear choices that make all the difference when you're out there pushing the limits. His journey is a testament to resilience, the impact of facing failure head-on, and the deep personal fulfillment found in the heart of ultra running. Get ready to be inspired!

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Ultra Running

03:04 First Experiences and Lessons Learned

06:00 Challenges in Early Races

08:47 Transitioning to Longer Distances

11:50 The First 100K Experience

15:09 The GDR Experience

17:55 Learning from Failures

21:13 The Road to Success

23:59 Cruel Jewel 100 Experience

26:48 Reflections on Ultra Running

30:12 Looking Ahead to Future Races

35:03 The Struggle at Mile 100

44:18 Facing Physical and Mental Limits

55:43 The Deeper Why Behind Ultra Running

01:02:10 Training Strategies for Success

01:11:14 Gear Choices for Ultra Running

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving deep into the world of grit and grace with the phenomenal Shannon Wheeler! She's not just an ultra runner; she's a force of nature who's tackled some of the toughest races out there.

Shannon takes us on her incredible journey, from finding solace in running in her mid-30s to crushing races like the Cruel Jewel 100 (which she compares to childbirth – you know it was tough!) and battling through the rugged Palisades 100. We'll hear all about the mental strength it takes to push through pain, the importance of dialing in your nutrition, and how unpredictable weather can throw a wrench in even the best-laid plans.

But it's not just about the suffering! Shannon shares her insights on transitioning to personal training, her dreams of tackling Hard Rock, and the pure joy and camaraderie she finds in the ultra community. Get ready for a dose of inspiration that proves anything is possible when you refuse to quit!

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Shannon Wheeler

05:19 Transitioning to Ultra Running

10:30 Cruel Jewel: The Ultimate Challenge

16:16 The Palisades 100: A Rugged Adventure

29:19 Crew Support and Nutrition Strategy

36:57 Mental Resilience: Dark Moments and Mantras

41:34 Post-Race Reflections and Future Goals

52:38 Trail Running Challenges and Experiences

57:52 Training Strategies for Ultra Races

01:04:06 Managing Pressure and Expectations

01:11:56 Dream Races and Future Aspirations

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're tackling a story that's a touchdown for the running community! We're hanging out with Chris Stangle, a former football player who traded his helmet for a headlamp and is now not only crushing ultra marathons but also orchestrating some seriously awesome races!

Chris takes us on his unexpected journey from the gridiron to the grueling world of ultras, sharing how he discovered his love for endurance and the challenges he faced along the way. But what really shines through is his passion for the running community. We'll talk about the significance of those coveted race buckles (you know you collect them!), the importance of a strong support crew, and the incredible family-like atmosphere he creates at his events in Florida and Ohio.

Ever wonder what it's like to be the person behind the race? Chris pulls back the curtain on the wild world of race directing, the hurdles involved, and the immense joy that comes from seeing runners achieve their goals. Get ready for a story that's all about passion, community, and the unforgettable memories forged on the trails.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Chris Stangel and His Journey

02:31 The Transition from Football to Running

05:22 The Evolution of Chris's Running Career

08:17 Starting Run Fluent and Race Directing

10:41 The Significance of Matakwa and Race Directing Experiences

13:41 Unique Race Medals and Their Importance

16:33 Meeting His Wife and Shared Running Experiences

19:11 Memorable Races and Lessons Learned

22:09 The Impact of Virtual Races During COVID-19

28:47 Running Shoes and Early Experiences

30:35 Challenging Races and Personal Growth

35:58 Upcoming Races and Training Plans

37:04 Event Planning and Race Descriptions

49:25 Community Building and Race Directing Challenges

01:00:15 The Challenges of Race Timing

01:06:30 The Evolution of Running and Race Directing

01:07:50 Finding Purpose in Running

01:10:05 The Joy of Race Directing

01:11:57 Low-Key Races and Personal Preferences

01:15:24 Dream Races and Aspirations

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're strapping on our headlamps and hitting the trails with Nick Bianchini, a true force of nature who went from battling wildfires to crushing ultra marathons! 🔥

Nick's journey is a wild ride, and he's not holding back. We're talking about how he traded the smoke and flames for sweat and dirt, using running as his escape and his freedom. He opens up about his battles with addiction and how lacing up his shoes became his lifeline.

But it hasn't been all smooth trails. Nick shares the gritty details of his ultra running experiences, including the setbacks of injuries and the mental toughness it takes to bounce back. We also dive into the incredible ultra community, especially the vibrant scene in Chattanooga, and the crucial role his family plays in his running adventures (including running with his son – how cool is that?!).

Plus, we get the lowdown on fueling strategies (salty snacks over sweet – you heard it here first!), the beauty and brutality of East Coast trails versus the vastness of the West, and why Nick always aims for the stars, even in the toughest races.

If you're ready for a story of resilience, redemption, and a whole lot of ultra-inspiring moments, you HAVE to tune in!

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Nick Bianchini

03:03 Nick's Journey into Running and Ultra Running

06:01 Wildland Firefighting and Its Impact on Nick's Life

09:00 First Experiences with Ultra Running

12:00 Training and Coaching for Ultra Running

15:04 Favorite Trails and Races

18:02 Overcoming Injury and Returning to Running

21:13 Inspiration and Family in Running

23:55 Experiences with DNF and Race Culture

26:57 Exploring the Southeast Ultra Running Scene

27:32 Exploring the Chattanooga Running Scene

30:09 Challenges and Triumphs in Ultra Racing

33:47 Adapting to Diverse Race Conditions

39:03 The Last Man Standing Experience

44:07 Cherokee Race Insights and Community

48:06 Navigating the Penhody 100

51:46 Running with Family and Personal Growth

54:04 Trail Racing Experiences and Competitions

01:01:02 Motivation Behind Running

01:03:52 Comparing East Coast and West Coast Trails

01:10:05 Nutrition Strategies for Endurance Running

01:12:51 Favorite Races and Future Aspirations

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're hanging out with Katie Baksa, a total rockstar who's gone from kicking soccer balls to crushing marathons (like, Olympic Trials level crushing!). But her story isn't just about speed and PRs; it's a hilarious and inspiring look at a messy, beautiful journey of a runner who's not afraid to chase big dreams (and maybe stumble a little along the way - that humbling 5K story is gold!).

Katie spills the beans on her ultra and trail running adventures, her training secrets (fueled by recovery drinks and maybe a little bit of crazy), and the incredible support system that keeps her going (shoutout to the family!). Plus, we dive into the wild world of starting a running brand, Bound Running, where community and togetherness are the name of the game.

If you've ever doubted yourself, chased a crazy goal, or just love a good running story with a healthy dose of reality, you HAVE to listen to this episode. Katie's proof that even after a "humbling" 5K, the marathon (and life!) is still yours to conquer.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Katie Baksa and Her Journey

03:23 Transitioning from Soccer to Running

06:48 The Shift to Ultra and Trail Running

10:53 Marathon Experiences and Personal Growth

14:03 Training Dynamics and Family Support

17:43 The Olympic Trials Experience

20:35 Reflections on Running and Lifestyle Choices

22:01 Fueling Strategies for Races

30:14 Recovery Drinks and Nutrition Strategies

31:50 Upcoming Races and Summer Training

36:47 Lessons from Crashing and Burning

43:44 The Birth of Bound Running

56:14 Why I Run: The Journey of Progress

01:02:10 The Humbling 5K Experience

01:06:47 Running Dreams and Aspirations

01:10:14 The Birth of Bound

01:17:48 Coaching Dynamics in Relationships

01:24:06 Finding Joy in Racing

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving deep into the heart of the trail running community with a very special guest: Terry Chiplin, the driving force behind the US Trail Running Conference!

Terry shares his personal and inspiring journey into running, from his childhood in England to the transformative landscapes of Colorado. We'll hear about the spark that ignited his passion for the sport and how that passion led to the creation of the US Trail Running Conference.

But this isn't just about a conference; it's about the incredible community that makes trail running so unique. Terry discusses the challenges faced by race directors, the importance of inclusivity, and the evolution of the conference to embrace diverse voices.

More than just a race or an event, running for Terry is a connection – to nature, to oneself, and to the unparalleled camaraderie of the running world. Get ready to feel the excitement as we talk about the upcoming conference in Knoxville, Tennessee, and the bright future of trail running!

GIVEAWAY ALERT! 🎉 Follow the Dirt and Vert Instagram page and find the podcast release post with Terry and share the post to your story, and tag 5 trail-loving friends for a chance to win a FREE one-day pass to the US Trail Running Conference (Wednesday 15th, Thursday 16th, or Friday 17th)! Don't miss out on this chance to connect with the heart of our sport.

Plus, our amazing listeners get an EXCLUSIVE discount! Use code 2025DIRTVERT40 when registering for the 3-day Race Director option before May 2nd at this link: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=121458

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Trail Running and Terry Chiplin

06:06 Terry's Journey: From Childhood to Running Passion

12:04 The Transition: Rediscovering Running After a Dark Period

17:51 Establishing a Life in Colorado and Trail Running Camps

23:59 The Birth of the US Trail Running Conference

30:04 The Evolution of the Conference and Its Impact

36:10 Current Status and Future of the Conference

46:29 Conference Schedule and Activities

48:12 Merchandise and Vendor Opportunities

52:59 Personal Journey and Motivation for Running

01:00:00 Favorite Trails and Running Experiences

01:09:20 Community and Networking at the Conference

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Kristian Morgan, an ultra runner whose journey is nothing short of epic. And get this – he currently holds the second fastest time in BOTH directions on the Appalachian Trail and he's going back in 2025 for another attempt!

Kristian takes us on his incredible adventure, from tackling the legendary Appalachian Trail to his relentless pursuit of the Fastest Known Time (FKT). We'll hear about the challenges, the triumphs, and the hard-earned wisdom he's gained along the way.

But it's not just about the miles. Kristian opens up about the power of community support, his personal training philosophies, and the profound sense of purpose that running has brought to his life. He reflects on his past, the obstacles he's overcome, and his ambitious goals for the future, including conquering the Triple Crown FKT.

Prepare to be inspired by a story that proves running can be a transformative force, forging connections and revealing the extraordinary strength within.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Christian Morgan

01:03 Christian's Adventurous Beginnings

02:39 The Journey into Running

04:44 Transition to Ultra Running

06:25 Global Running Experiences

08:01 Significant Races and Transformations

10:01 The Beauty of Thailand North Face 100K

13:11 Experiences at UTMB

16:07 Transitioning to FKTs

19:01 Training for the Appalachian Trail

22:07 Lessons from FKT Attempts

25:06 The Importance of Support

27:55 Planning for the Next FKT Attempt

31:07 The Pursuit of Happiness and Relationships

49:09 Building a Supportive Community

50:03 Exploring the Appalachian Trail

52:40 Setting Realistic Goals

54:51 Training Strategies and Mileage

56:49 The Impact of Weather on Running

59:48 Finding Purpose in Running

01:06:11 The Role of Running in Personal Growth

01:10:57 Culinary Adventures in Running

01:12:57 Future Aspirations and Bucket List Races

01:17:16 Fueling the Journey

01:21:17 Coaching and Sharing Knowledge

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredibly inspiring Lindsey Sexton, a two-time No Business 100 finisher whose journey proves that strength and resilience can conquer any obstacle.

Lindsey takes us on her remarkable path, from her early days starting a cross-country team in high school to facing down breast cancer and emerging to complete ultra marathons. We'll hear about her motivations, the challenges she's overcome, and the raw emotion of crossing that finish line after her battle.

Lindsey emphasizes the vital role of community support, the power of mental strength, and the unwavering belief in oneself that fuels every step. Her story is a testament to the human spirit's capacity to endure and triumph.

Get ready to be moved, inspired, and reminded that anything is possible when you refuse to give up on your dreams.

Chapters

00:00 Lindsey's Running Journey Begins

04:23 Transition to Ultra Running

09:29 Facing Breast Cancer

15:01 The No Business 100 Experience

36:01 Emotional Finish and Community Support

42:47 Year Two: Overcoming New Challenges

51:59 The Journey of Resilience

54:31 Overcoming Obstacles and Finding Strength

56:45 The Power of Sharing Stories

01:00:08 Life Lessons from Running

01:02:42 The Importance of Early Detection

01:03:44 Running as a Form of Freedom

01:06:28 Setting Future Goals

01:11:38 The Mindset of a Runner

01:21:55 Confidence and Self-Belief

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're bringing you an extraordinary live update from the road! We're checking in with Kallup McCoy II, an inspiring indigenous runner who's embarking on an epic journey across America, a feat accomplished by few indigenous runners since 1928.

Kallup is sharing the raw, real-time experience of this incredible endeavor. We'll hear about the challenges he's facing, the unwavering support of his crew and community, and the profound purpose that fuels his every step: to raise awareness about health issues and substance use disorder.

This isn't just a story about running; it's a testament to the power of hope, the strength of resilience, and the ability of the human spirit to overcome any obstacle. Kallup's journey is a beacon of inspiration, reminding us that even in the face of adversity, we can achieve the seemingly impossible.

Join us as we follow Kallup's footsteps and witness history in the making. And if you're moved to support his mission, please visit www.rezhoperecovery.com

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Crew Introduction

02:33 Challenges on the Road

05:23 Mental Health and Substance Use Awareness

08:02 Purpose Behind the Run

09:36 The Journey of an Indigenous Runner

10:48 Cultural Significance and Personal Growth

10:51 Celebrating the Journey

13:04 Encouragement and Inspiration