I, for one, don’t enjoy talking about pain and loss. I want to just be happy. That is the hope of this show. How to transcend beyond it. Not get over it. Not to ever be the same again. But go forward wiser and stronger and with abiding joy. This is part three of my series on Dr Lee Warren and the message in his new book, Hope Is The First Dose: A treatment plan for recovering from trauma, tragedy and other massive things. My co-host for this segment is Richie Norton. I’ve had Richie on my show multiple times. He’s an influencer to influencers and the author of The Power of Starting Something Stupid and Anti-Time Management. Richie is also one of the most inspiring people I know. And I chose him for this show because, like Lee, Richie also lost a child. This show is not about losing children, but those are tragic muses to look at to see how someone could not only endure such pain and loss, but come out, well. Not unscathed. Not justifying it. As you’ll hear, Richie likens it to forever carrying something on your back. It never goes away. It either weighs you down, or you get stronger. The conversation was deep, contemplative, but with Richie, always some laughs.

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