Draft Zero: a screenwriting podcast

Draft Zero: a screenwriting podcast

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  • DZ-92: Insightful Recognition in Powerful Endings

    Listen if you want to write endings that make audiences pause and ponder (in a good way, obvs)

    Stu & Chas set out to explore what makes certain endings powerful, in particular those of LA LA LAND, INCEPTION, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN and TURNING RED. The lens they bring to those endings is Aristotle’s moment of “anagnorisis” (don’t worry - we can’t pronounce it either), traditionally when a character moves from ignorance to knowledge (particularly of self).

    But in analysing these films, Chas and Stu discover that endings can be particularly powerful when the characters experience insightful recognition in others, or in the world, or - perhaps most powerfully - when the anagnorisis is aimed at the audience. In other words, are there craft tools for your ending to prompt an audience to ask itself the question “What was that all about?”? Turns out, we think there are.

    Thanks to Chris Walker for editing this episode.

    As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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      CHAPTERS

      • 00:00:00 – Intro
      • 00:00:48 – Insightful recognition in endings
      • 00:03:39 – What the hell is "anagnorisis"?
      • 00:12:04 – LA LA LAND
      • 00:30:45 – INCEPTION
      • 00:35:14 – NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
      • 01:00:04 – TURNING RED
      • 01:18:18 – Wrap up & Key Learnings
      • 01:24:26 – Thanks patreons!
      • FILMS

        • LA LA LAND (2016) — (w) Damien Chazelle
        • INCEPTION (2010) — (w) Christopher Nolan
        • NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (2007) — (w) Cormac Mccarthy, Ethan Coen, Joel Coen (d) Joel Coen, Ethan Coen
        • TURNING RED (2022) — (w) Domee Shi, Domee Shi, Julia Cho, Julia Cho, Sarah Streicher (d) Domee Shi
        • SCRIPTS

          • Study the script: LA LA LAND (2016) — Damien Chazelle
          • Study the script: INCEPTION (2010) — Christopher Nolan
          • Study the script: NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (2007) — Cormac Mccarthy, Ethan Coen, Joel Coen
          • LINKS

            • Read: HULK PRESENTS THE MYTH OF THE THREE ACT STRUCTURE
            • Read: Lindsay Doran on the psychology of story-telling
            • Sponsor: ScriptUp use promo code DZ10 to get 10% off
            • RELATED EPISODES

              • DZ-04: Catharsis and the Post-Coital Cigarette
              • ———

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                We are @stuwillis, @mehlsbells and @chasffisher on Twitter. You can find @draft_zero and @_shotzero on Instagram and Twitter.

                Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2022/dz-92/

                1 hr 27 min
              • DZ-91: Raising (different kinds of) Stakes

                Listen listen if you're writing a biopic or any story where the audience already knows how it ends.

                Chas, Stu and Mel take a deep dive into stakes, using then lens of biopics to help us think about them. If an audience already knows the “plot” outcome of a story, then how do you create stakes to make a story tense for the audience?

                To explore this, we deep dive into HIDDEN FIGURES (about the NASA Friendship 7 mission), DOWNFALL (the final days of Berlin in WW2), and BRIGHT STAR (the life and death of romantic poet John Keats). We unpack the ideas around internal, external and philosophical /moral stakes and propose some new terminology that may help us write stakes more effectively.

                Thanks to Chris Walker for editing this episode.

                As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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                  CHAPTERS

                  • 00:00:00 – Intro
                  • 00:04:41 – What even are stakes?
                  • 00:24:26 – Hidden Figures
                  • 01:00:46 – Downfall
                  • 01:33:38 – Bright Star
                  • 02:10:33 – Key Learnings
                  • 02:18:57 – Thanks Patreons!
                  • FILMS

                    • HIDDEN FIGURES (2016) — (w) Allison Schroeder, Theodore Melfi (d) Theodore Melfi
                    • DOWNFALL (2004) — (w) Bernd Eichinger (d) Oliver Hirschbiegel
                    • BRIGHT STAR (2009) — (w) Jane Campion, Andrew Motion (d) Jane Campion
                    • SCRIPTS

                      • Study the script: HIDDEN FIGURES (2016) — Allison Schroeder, Theodore Melfi
                      • ———

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                        Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2022/dz-91/

                        2 hr 20 min
                      • DZ-90: Setups & Payoffs in EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE

                        Listen to understand how setups, payoffs, and reversals create narrative cohesion even when your story is fkn bonkers.

                        In this one-shot, Chas and Stu jump into the utter chaos of EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE. Y'know, nultiverses, butt-plug action sequences, hot-dog fingers, a raccoon chef, a nihilist bagel. All the good stuff. And yet it lands emotionally in a way that feels inevitable.

                        So of-course we break it down in a masterclass in setups and payoffs — specifically, how payoffs do two jobs at once: they reward the audience for paying attention, and they stitch what would otherwise be an episodic swirl into something that feels like a single, coherent whole.

                        The framework we land on has three parts (with debt to William Dunn):

                        • Pointers — setups the audience is meant to notice. They point forward and create tension or expectation.
                        • Plants — setups you only understand in hindsight. The joyful surprise of oh, that's where that came from.
                        • Stitches (or underpinnings) — a third category: connective tissue that was never meant to be noticed at all. It just makes the fabric hold.
                        • From there, we deep dive down how EEAAO earns all three. Raccacoonie starts as a throwaway joke, then appears as a half-visible visual seed, then tracks Evelyn's relationship arc across three separate beats. The opening 13 minutes crams in more setups than you register on first watch — and then we talk about why that invisibility is the craft. And the ending turns out to be a payoff for something planted in the very first scene of the film.

                          In particular, we focus on its use of setups, payoffs and reversals; breakdown the difference between Pointers and Plants and Stitches; deep dive into its Michael Arndt inspired ending. And, of course, we talk hotdog fingers and butt-plugs.

                          We also tackle the film's macro structure: the midpoint reversal where the mission shifts from defeating to saving Joy, the competing philosophical stakes (nihilism versus kindness, but more precisely, control versus empathy), and what Michael Arndt's climax structure reveals about how the ending's repeated beat finally lands hardest

                          "No one's meant to notice this scaffolding. But it needs to be there — because otherwise people would be like, where did that come from?"

                          Thanks to Chris Walker for editing this episode.

                          As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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                            → Read the transcript for this episode.

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                            "And it does all of that with fucking butt plug action sequences and hot dog fingers." — Chas Fisher @ 00:00:00

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                            CHAPTERS

                            • 00:00:00 – Cold Open
                            • 00:00:43 – Anywhere Anything At The Same Time: What Makes Setups and Payoffs Work
                            • 00:03:26 – › How payoffs reward attention and stitch a film into a cohesive whole
                            • 00:05:53 – › Pointers, plants, and a third category: stitches
                            • 00:10:40 – Plot Summary and Structural Architecture
                            • 00:13:22 – › The opening 15 minutes and the status quo of Evelyn's world
                            • 00:17:10 – › Midpoint reversal: the mission shifts from defeating to saving Joy
                            • 00:22:46 – › Setup, reversal, and payoff at the macro structural level
                            • 00:29:51 – Pointers, Plants, and Stitches: How the Film Layers Information
                            • 00:33:53 – › Ratatouille as throwaway joke, visual seed, and character payoff
                            • 00:39:08 – › How each alternate universe tracks a relationship, not just a skill
                            • 00:43:27 – › Verse-jumping rules established through repetition and withholding
                            • 00:50:35 – › When setups are ambiguous: pointer or plant depending on the audience
                            • 00:56:17 – The Ending and Michael Arndt's Climax Structure
                            • 01:00:43 – › Competing values: kindness versus nihilism as the philosophical stakes
                            • 01:05:05 – › Evelyn fights with kindness and lets Joy go as the decisive act
                            • 01:13:09 – › Why the repeated beat lands hardest at the father confrontation
                            • 01:17:59 – Key Learnings & Wrap Up
                            • 01:21:46 – › Invisible scaffolding and the writer's craft of deliberate concealment
                            • 01:23:48 – › Using plot intrusions as setups for future payoffs
                            • 01:29:44 – Patreon Thanks
                            • FILMS

                              • EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE (2022) — (w) Daniel Kwan, Daniel Scheinert (d) Daniel Scheinert, Daniel Kwan
                              • SCRIPTS

                                • Study the script: EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE (2022) — Daniel Kwan, Daniel Scheinert
                                • RELATED EPISODES

                                  • DZ-04: Catharsis and the Post-Coital Cigarette
                                  • DZ-06: Key Scenes and Unlocking the Story
                                  • DZ-10: Midpoint Reversals and The Ride
                                  • ———

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                                    We are @stuwillis, @mehlsbells and @chasffisher on Twitter. You can find @draft_zero and @_shotzero on Instagram and Twitter.

                                    Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2022/dz-90/

                                    1 hr 31 min
                                  • DZ-89: Opening Sequences

                                    Listen if you want to understand how great opening sequences establish character, genre, and theme while defying genre conventions

                                    Inspired by her tweet on how subversive an opening OCEAN’S ELEVEN has, Chas and Stu invited amazing writer/director Jessica Ellis onto the show to deep dive into opening sequences. How does a good opening setup character, genre, and theme?

                                    In exploring how best to open your story - instead of looking at the almost mandatory studio note of “dropping you in the action” - Stu, Chas and Jess look at the inventive openings of OCEAN’S ELEVEN, LONG SHOT, ARRIVAL and A SERIOUS MAN. Each of these films opens in a way that seems to defy its genre conventions and yet still provide all the set-up it needs to perfectly tell its story.

                                    Thanks to Chris Walker for editing this episode.

                                    As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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                                      CHAPTERS

                                      • 00:00:56 – Intro
                                      • 00:12:04 – Ocean's Eleven
                                      • 00:30:26 – Long Shot
                                      • 01:01:32 – Arrival
                                      • 01:22:22 – A Serious Man
                                      • 01:41:17 – Wrap Up
                                      • 01:46:47 – Patreon thanks
                                      • FILMS

                                        • OCEAN'S ELEVEN (2001) — (w) Ted Griffin (d) Steven Soderbergh
                                        • LONG SHOT (2019) — (w) Dan Sterling, Liz Hannah, Dan Sterling (d) Jonathan Levine
                                        • ARRIVAL (2016) — (w) Eric Heisserer (d) Denis Villeneuve
                                        • A SERIOUS MAN (2009) — (w) Joel Coen, Ethan Coen
                                        • SCRIPTS

                                          • Study the script: OCEAN'S ELEVEN (2001) — Ted Griffin
                                          • Study the script: ARRIVAL (2016) — Eric Heisserer
                                          • Study the script: A SERIOUS MAN (2009) — Joel Coen, Ethan Coen
                                          • LINKS

                                            • Read: What Lies West
                                            • EPISODES IN THE SEQUENCES SERIES

                                              • DZ-43: Driving Sequences - Character and Plot Intensity
                                              • DZ-54: Thematic Sequences
                                              • DZ-89: Opening Sequences
                                              • RELATED EPISODES

                                                • DZ-15: World Building Rules, Okay?
                                                • DZ-43: Driving Sequences - Character and Plot Intensity
                                                • DZ-44: Marvel - First Acts and Establishing Characters
                                                • ———

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                                                  If you enjoy the show, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, a rating on Spotify, or a review on Podchaser.

                                                  We are @stuwillis, @mehlsbells and @chasffisher on Twitter. You can find @draft_zero and @_shotzero on Instagram and Twitter.

                                                  Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2022/dz-89/

                                                  1 hr 49 min
                                                • DZ-88: Drama in Genre clothing

                                                  Listen if you're writing a genre film but sense your story wants to become something else entirely.

                                                  Stu and Chas reunite with TV writer & director Kodie Bedford to look at how some films start out as genre but gradually become character dramas. Or, as Stu never said on the episode "Genre in the streets, Drama in the sheets".

                                                  Together, they break down HUSTLERS, PIG and POWER OF THE DOG, to see how these films use their genre trappings to hook their audience while ultimately delivering something else entirely. We discuss chapter breaks, inciting incidents, character questions, theme and MORE.

                                                  Thanks to Chris Walker for editing this episode.

                                                  As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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                                                    CHAPTERS

                                                    • 00:00:01 – Intro
                                                    • 00:00:56 – Drama in Genre Clothing
                                                    • 00:02:21 – Sam Elliot on Power of the Dog
                                                    • 00:03:19 – Lessons from Keeping Genre Fresh
                                                    • 00:08:14 – Hustlers
                                                    • 00:43:58 – Pig
                                                    • 01:16:24 – The Power of the Dog
                                                    • 01:55:02 – Key Learnings and Wrap Up
                                                    • FILMS

                                                      • HUSTLERS (2019) — (w) Lorene Scafaria
                                                      • PIG (2021) — (w) Michael Sarnoski, Michael Sarnoski, Vanessa Block (d) Michael Sarnoski
                                                      • THE POWER OF THE DOG (2021) — (w) Jane Campion, Thomas Savage (d) Jane Campion
                                                      • SCRIPTS

                                                        • Study the script: HUSTLERS (2019) — Lorene Scafaria
                                                        • Study the script: THE POWER OF THE DOG (2021) — Jane Campion, Thomas Savage
                                                        • LINKS

                                                          • Website: Kodie Bedford: Breaking down characters and worlds
                                                          • EPISODES IN THE TWISTING GENRE SERIES

                                                            • DZ-87: Keeping Genre Fresh
                                                            • DZ-88: Drama in Genre clothing
                                                            • RELATED EPISODES

                                                              • DZ-87: Keeping Genre Fresh
                                                              • ———

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                                                                If you enjoy the show, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, a rating on Spotify, or a review on Podchaser.

                                                                We are @stuwillis, @mehlsbells and @chasffisher on Twitter. You can find @draft_zero and @_shotzero on Instagram and Twitter.

                                                                Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2022/dz-88/

                                                                2 hr 7 min
                                                              • DZ-87: Keeping Genre Fresh

                                                                Listen when you're writing within a genre but terrified you'll deliver something your audience has already seen.

                                                                In tackling this enormous topic, Stu and Chads enlist professional TV writer and director Kodie Bedford, someone who has somehow managed to defy genre pigeon-holing by writing mystery, comedy and vampire shows.

                                                                The three of them look at GET OUT, PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN and THE INVISIBLE MAN (with reference to PARASITE, JOHN WICK, TAKEN, KNIVES OUT and more) to see what tools the writers have used to deliver on the expectations of a genre while moving that genre on, without writing something stale.

                                                                Thanks to Chris for editing this episode.

                                                                As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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                                                                  ———

                                                                  CHAPTERS

                                                                  • 00:00:57 – Intro: Keeping Genre Fresh
                                                                  • 00:03:10 – What is Genre?
                                                                  • 00:16:30 – Get Out
                                                                  • 00:45:10 – Promising Young Woman
                                                                  • 01:25:08 – The Invisible Man
                                                                  • 01:59:18 – Wrap Up
                                                                  • 02:11:44 – Thanks to our Patreons!
                                                                  • FILMS

                                                                    • GET OUT (2017) — (w) Jordan Peele
                                                                    • PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN (2020) — (w) Emerald Fennell
                                                                    • THE INVISIBLE MAN (2020) — (w) Leigh Whannell, H G Wells, Leigh Whannell (d) Leigh Whannell
                                                                    • SCRIPTS

                                                                      • Study the script: GET OUT (2017) — Jordan Peele
                                                                      • Study the script: PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN (2020) — Emerald Fennell
                                                                      • SHOT ZERO DEEP DIVES

                                                                        • Perp & Victim 2: Opening Kills in Horror (2000s+)
                                                                        • LINKS

                                                                          • Website: Kodie Bedford: Breaking down characters and worlds
                                                                          • EPISODES IN THE TWISTING GENRE SERIES

                                                                            • DZ-87: Keeping Genre Fresh
                                                                            • DZ-88: Drama in Genre clothing
                                                                            • RELATED EPISODES

                                                                              • DZ-54: Thematic Sequences
                                                                              • DZ-68: Using POV to structure KNIVES OUT
                                                                              • DZ-69: PARASITE & Audience Questions
                                                                              • ———

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                                                                                If you enjoy the show, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, a rating on Spotify, or a review on Podchaser.

                                                                                We are @stuwillis, @mehlsbells and @chasffisher on Twitter. You can find @draft_zero and @_shotzero on Instagram and Twitter.

                                                                                Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2022/dz-87/

                                                                                2 hr 14 min
                                                                              • DZ-86: Backmatter - Minimum Viable Product

                                                                                Listen for screenwriting lessons from 2021, strategies for pitching projects, and insights on running a writers workshop

                                                                                In their annual full backwater episode, Stu and Chas let out their pandemic hair, drop the ruse of objectivity, and allow themselves to have even more options about writing and the business of writing.

                                                                                In this Backmatter entry, they go deep on: future episode topics; their screenwriting lessons from 2021 (especially on control); pitching projects; the minimum viable product & minimum loveable thing; and share their exper iences with running a writers workshop/group.

                                                                                There are no Star Wars references in this episode, but there are plenty of Die Hard ones. Die Hard is the new Star Wars. Get over it.

                                                                                Thanks to Chris Walker for editing this episode.

                                                                                As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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                                                                                  ———

                                                                                  CHAPTERS

                                                                                  • 00:00:00 – Intro: Backmatter
                                                                                  • 00:03:02 – Looking Forward - Episode Ideas
                                                                                  • 00:19:40 – Looking Back - Screenwriting Lessons
                                                                                  • 00:49:46 – Looking Now - Processes
                                                                                  • 01:28:26 – Outro
                                                                                  • FILMS

                                                                                    • DIE HARD (1988) — (w) Roderick Thorp, Jeb Stuart, Steven E De Souza (d) John Mctiernan
                                                                                    • SCRIPTS

                                                                                      • Study the script: DIE HARD (1988) — Roderick Thorp, Jeb Stuart, Steven E De Souza
                                                                                      • SHOT ZERO DEEP DIVES

                                                                                        • DIE HARD: integrating inserts in the action
                                                                                        • Character Introductions 002: Hans Gruber
                                                                                        • EPISODES IN THE BACKMATTER SERIES

                                                                                          • DZ-17: Where's my gold-plated ensuite?
                                                                                          • DZ-36: Backmatter - Time Risk and Fixing Movies
                                                                                          • DZ-47: Backmatter - A Lost Jedi, White Knighting, and Writers-On-Set
                                                                                          • DZ-57: Backmatter - Aesthetics and Forgiveness in Writing
                                                                                          • DZ-64: Backmatter - Controlling your Work, Treatments, and Writing Styles
                                                                                          • DZ-77: Backmatter - Prioritising and choosing projects
                                                                                          • DZ-86: Backmatter - Minimum Viable Product
                                                                                          • DZ-95: Backmatter - Building and Maintenance
                                                                                          • ———

                                                                                            More Draft Zero is brought to you by our awesome Patreons.

                                                                                            If you enjoy the show, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, a rating on Spotify, or a review on Podchaser.

                                                                                            We are @stuwillis, @mehlsbells and @chasffisher on Twitter. You can find @draft_zero and @_shotzero on Instagram and Twitter.

                                                                                            Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2022/dz-86/

                                                                                            1 hr 30 min
                                                                                          • DZ-85: Choices & Decisions 2 - The Farewell & Wrath of Man

                                                                                            Listen when you want to show a character refusing to change despite every opportunity to do so.

                                                                                            In our second part of our “series” on Choices & Decisions, we take a deep dive into THE FAREWELL and WRATH OF MAN, with a sidebar on NOMADLAND.

                                                                                            In THE FAREWELL, we consider how the choice/decision to lie underpins every sene of the film (to great effect).

                                                                                            In NOMADLAND, we consider how using choice and decision is a great way to show how a character doesn’t change.

                                                                                            And in WRATH OF MAN, we look at how non-linear narrative - and its decoupling of choice, decisions and consequence (wouldn’t that be a detripling???) impacts the audience experience, especially how we feel about characters.

                                                                                            The terminology we settled on in Part 1 was:

                                                                                            • CHOICE: Are the options presented to the character.
                                                                                            • DECISION: Is the knowing consideration of the choice and resulting action.
                                                                                            • CONSEQUENCE: is the resulting outcome from the choice.
                                                                                            • Thanks to Chris for editing this episode.

                                                                                              As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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                                                                                                ———

                                                                                                CHAPTERS

                                                                                                • 00:00:00 – Intro
                                                                                                • 00:01:38 – Decisions & Choices Recap
                                                                                                • 00:03:41 – The Farewell
                                                                                                • 00:28:58 – Nomadland
                                                                                                • 00:37:39 – Wrath of Man
                                                                                                • 01:36:54 – Wrap Up & Key Learnings
                                                                                                • 01:45:06 – Backmatter
                                                                                                • FILMS

                                                                                                  • THE FAREWELL (2019) — (w) Lulu Wang
                                                                                                  • WRATH OF MAN (2021) — (w) Ivan Atkinson, Marn Davies, Guy Ritchie (d) Guy Ritchie
                                                                                                  • NOMADLAND (2021) — (w) Chloe Zhao
                                                                                                  • SCRIPTS

                                                                                                    • Study the script: THE FAREWELL (2019) — Lulu Wang
                                                                                                    • Study the script: NOMADLAND (2021) — Chloe Zhao
                                                                                                    • SHOT ZERO DEEP DIVES

                                                                                                      • Editing as Imperfect Memory in THE FAREWELL
                                                                                                      • LINKS

                                                                                                        • Read: Damon Young
                                                                                                        • Read:
                                                                                                        • EPISODES IN THE CHOICES AND DECISIONS SERIES

                                                                                                          • DZ-84: Choices & Decisions 1 - Booksmart
                                                                                                          • DZ-85: Choices & Decisions 2 - The Farewell & Wrath of Man
                                                                                                          • RELATED EPISODES

                                                                                                            • DZ-34: Game of Choices - Decision Making and Character Implications
                                                                                                            • DZ-48: One-Shot - Blade Runner 2049 – Agency vs Choice
                                                                                                            • DZ-84: Choices & Decisions 1 - Booksmart
                                                                                                            • ———

                                                                                                              More Draft Zero is brought to you by our awesome Patreons.

                                                                                                              If you enjoy the show, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, a rating on Spotify, or a review on Podchaser.

                                                                                                              We are @stuwillis, @mehlsbells and @chasffisher on Twitter. You can find @draft_zero and @_shotzero on Instagram and Twitter.

                                                                                                              Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2021/dz-85/

                                                                                                              1 hr 50 min
                                                                                                            • DZ-84: Choices & Decisions 1 - Booksmart

                                                                                                              Listen how the separation of choice, decision, and consequence (for a character) creates emotional impact.

                                                                                                              In order to better understand dramatising of character, Chas and Stu take a very draft zero look at very specific tool: choices and decisions. We analyse three films through the decisions made by their characters. In particular, how the audience understanding of: the choice available, the considered decision itself, and the consequence changes how we feel about these characters. And how separating those three things can create different emotional effects on your audience.

                                                                                                              We debate this in the episode, but this is the terminology we settle on:

                                                                                                              • CHOICE: Are the options presented to the character.
                                                                                                              • DECISION: Is the knowing consideration of the choice and resulting action.
                                                                                                              • CONSEQUENCE: is the resulting outcome from the choice.
                                                                                                              • Part 1 (this part) establishes what we mean by choice and decision, and then takes a deep dive into BOOKSMART, directed by Olivia Wilde, and written by Emily Halpern, Sarah Haskins and Susanna Fogel. We all discuss FLEABAG, SEVEN, and old favourite, Star Wars.

                                                                                                                Part 2 will turn our analytical eye on THE FAREWELL and WRATH OF MAN.

                                                                                                                Thanks to Chris for editing this episodes.

                                                                                                                As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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                                                                                                                  ———

                                                                                                                  CHAPTERS

                                                                                                                  • 00:00:00 – Introduction
                                                                                                                  • 00:01:36 – Choices vs Decisions
                                                                                                                  • 00:19:51 – Booksmart
                                                                                                                  • 01:01:41 – Decisions & Structure
                                                                                                                  • 01:05:50 – Mills' decision in Se7en
                                                                                                                  • 01:07:50 – Key Learnings and Wrap Up
                                                                                                                  • FILMS

                                                                                                                    • BOOKSMART (2019) — (w) Sarah Haskins, Emily Halpern, Katie Silberman, Susanna Fogel (d) Olivia Wilde
                                                                                                                    • SE7EN (1995) — (w) Andrew Kevin Walker (d) David Fincher
                                                                                                                    • STAR WARS (1977) — (w) George Lucas
                                                                                                                    • THE FAREWELL (2019) — (w) Lulu Wang
                                                                                                                    • WRATH OF MAN (2021) — (w) Ivan Atkinson, Marn Davies, Guy Ritchie (d) Guy Ritchie
                                                                                                                    • SHOWS

                                                                                                                      • FLEABAG — (w) Phoebe Waller Bridge
                                                                                                                      • SCRIPTS

                                                                                                                        • Study the script: BOOKSMART (2019) — Sarah Haskins, Emily Halpern, Katie Silberman, Susanna Fogel
                                                                                                                        • Study the script: SE7EN (1995) — Andrew Kevin Walker
                                                                                                                        • Study the script: THE FAREWELL (2019) — Lulu Wang
                                                                                                                        • SHOT ZERO DEEP DIVES

                                                                                                                          • Editing as Imperfect Memory in THE FAREWELL
                                                                                                                          • EPISODES IN THE CHOICES AND DECISIONS SERIES

                                                                                                                            • DZ-84: Choices & Decisions 1 - Booksmart
                                                                                                                            • DZ-85: Choices & Decisions 2 - The Farewell & Wrath of Man
                                                                                                                            • RELATED EPISODES

                                                                                                                              • DZ-34: Game of Choices - Decision Making and Character Implications
                                                                                                                              • DZ-48: One-Shot - Blade Runner 2049 – Agency vs Choice
                                                                                                                              • ———

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                                                                                                                                1 hr 13 min
                                                                                                                              • DZ-83: A Very Thematic Stand-up Special!

                                                                                                                                Listen if you want to understand how stand-up comedians grip audiences and build emotional arcs (and what narrative tools screenwriters can borrow from comedy)!

                                                                                                                                Standup comedians can keep audiences gripped to their every word for over an hour, and often bring them to emotional climaxes by the end. So how do they do it and what tools can apply to scripted narratives?

                                                                                                                                For this deep dive into standup, Stu and Chas are joined by the super-talented comic and podcaster Alice Fraser. Which is rather fortuitous. Because not only are we schooled on comedy techniques, but because Alice also has a Masters in Narrative Rhetoric.

                                                                                                                                So as we dive in to NANETTE by Hannah Gadsby, BABY COBRA by Ali Wong and IT’S THE FIREWORKS TALKING by Daniel Kitson (with more than a passing reference to Alice’s own show SAVAGE and INSIDE by Bo Burnham), we analyse narrative structure, transitions, set-ups and pay-offs used by stand-ups…

                                                                                                                                But we end up focusing on exploring thematic tools - particularly the Aristotelean concepts of the rhetorical triangle:

                                                                                                                                - logos (how the story is told); - ethos (who the storyteller is); and - pathos (how the audience emotionally engages).

                                                                                                                                With these powers combined, storytellers of all kinds can produce work of thematic power and resonance. Or just funny.

                                                                                                                                And in backmatter, we discuss adapting Savage for the recorded stage with Alice!

                                                                                                                                This episode brought to you by ScriptUp – https://www.scriptupstudio.com – use promo code DZ10 to get 10% off.

                                                                                                                                Enjoy!

                                                                                                                                As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.

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                                                                                                                                  "If you introduce this idea in a harmless form, then they're willing to swallow it later. When, if you presented it raw out front, they would recoil." — Alice Fraser @ 00:11:22

                                                                                                                                  ———

                                                                                                                                  CHAPTERS

                                                                                                                                  • 00:00:00 – Q: What can screenwriters learn from the storytelling techniques used by stand-up comedians?
                                                                                                                                  • 00:03:25 – Alice Fraser on Comedy
                                                                                                                                  • 00:07:54 – › Comedy as a tool for confronting difficult emotional truths
                                                                                                                                  • 00:12:03 – › Presence, politics, and visual storytelling in BABY COBRA and NANETTE
                                                                                                                                  • 00:15:44 – › How format shapes stand-up structure across cultures
                                                                                                                                  • 00:22:33 – Comedy tools to be explored
                                                                                                                                  • 00:26:21 – NANETTE by Hannah Gadsby
                                                                                                                                  • 00:29:03 – › Ethos, logos, pathos as structural framework for comedy
                                                                                                                                  • 00:34:04 – › Unifying themes and audience-driven meaning in stand-up
                                                                                                                                  • 00:41:38 – › Joke structure as incomplete story and the fugue form
                                                                                                                                  • 00:45:15 – › Jokes as distance, intimacy, and audience manipulation
                                                                                                                                  • 00:48:47 – Transitions in and out of theme
                                                                                                                                  • 00:52:39 – › American vs. British structural approaches to stand-up narrative
                                                                                                                                  • 00:58:42 – › Catharsis mechanics and the retrospective reframe
                                                                                                                                  • 01:05:51 – › Tension as meta-commentary on gender and unresolved pain
                                                                                                                                  • 01:08:32 – BABY COBRA by Ali Wong
                                                                                                                                  • 01:13:02 – › Club bits vs. connective tissue in long-form comedy structure
                                                                                                                                  • 01:20:05 – › Reprise as structural skeleton: the trunk and branch model
                                                                                                                                  • 01:29:26 – › Audience participation, the Betty Crocker principle, and earned subtext
                                                                                                                                  • 01:34:39 – › Heightened dialogue and visual imagery conjured through language
                                                                                                                                  • 01:37:57 – IT'S THE FIREWORKS TALKING by Daniel Kitson
                                                                                                                                  • 01:42:47 – › What stand-up reveals about art that moves audiences
                                                                                                                                  • 01:49:02 – › Language as colour grading and hyper-real specificity
                                                                                                                                  • 01:55:30 – › Status shifts as a structural tool in comedy and drama
                                                                                                                                  • 02:00:06 – › Character voice as persona and the narrator's ethos
                                                                                                                                  • 02:04:45 – Key Learnings
                                                                                                                                  • 02:07:41 – › Layering emotional groundwork for recontextualization
                                                                                                                                  • 02:14:39 – Backmatter - Adapting SAVAGE
                                                                                                                                  • 02:17:03 – › Performing tension for unseen audiences
                                                                                                                                  • 02:22:53 – › Wide shots, private moments, and embodied scripts
                                                                                                                                  • 02:24:35 – › Adapting the illusion of intimacy to screen
                                                                                                                                  • 02:28:17 – › Narrator versus character and the writer's persona
                                                                                                                                  • FILMS

                                                                                                                                    • NANETTE (2017) — (w) Hannah Gadsby (d) Madeleine Parry, Jon Olb
                                                                                                                                    • BABY COBRA (2016) — (w) Ali Wong (d) Jay Karas
                                                                                                                                    • INSIDE (2021) — (w) Bo Burnham
                                                                                                                                    • IT'S THE FIREWORKS TALKING (2007) — (w) Daniel Kitson
                                                                                                                                    • LINKS

                                                                                                                                      • Listen: Alice Fraser's Savage Part 1
                                                                                                                                      • Listen: Alice Fraser's Savage Part 2
                                                                                                                                      • Watch: Alice Fraser's Savage on Amazon
                                                                                                                                      • Listen: Hannah Gadsby on the Working it Out podcast with Mike Birbiglia
                                                                                                                                      • Listen: Daniel Kitson's It's The Fireworks Talking (2007)
                                                                                                                                      • Sponsor: Script Up! Use promo code DZ10 to get 10% off
                                                                                                                                      • ———

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                                                                                                                                        If you enjoy the show, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, a rating on Spotify, or a review on Podchaser.

                                                                                                                                        We are @stuwillis, @mehlsbells and @chasffisher on Twitter. You can find @draft_zero and @_shotzero on Instagram and Twitter.

                                                                                                                                        Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2021/dz-83/

                                                                                                                                        2 hr 32 min

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