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E006: David Herrmann: Paid Media, Creative Diversity and the Channels You Should Be Testing


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In this episode of the marketing operators podcast your hosts are joined by paid social legend David Herrmann. David has been working in Meta ads manager for over 10 years and has become one of the top voices when it comes to paid social. Topics in this episode will include the recent issues with Meta's performance, insights on how brands can navigate this period, the importance of diversifying ad spend across different channels and platforms, such as Pinterest, Snapchat, and Twitter and advice on managing paid media.

00:00 Introduction
07:07 David's Paid Social Journey
12:33 Discussion on Meta Performance Issues
23:27 Importance of Diversifying Ad Spend
26:17 Exploring Alternative Channels
28:11 Advertising on Different Platforms
30:08 Pinterest as the Best Platform for HexClad
37:15 Testing and Scaling Strategies
49:07 Building ASC Campaigns
52:54 Minimizing Creative Testing and Focusing on Winners
55:46 Scaling Winners and Turning off Losers
56:41 Optimizing Campaigns by Product Offerings and Asset Types
59:03 The Challenges of Consolidation
01:02:28 Campaign Organization and Optimization
01:06:45 The Importance of Creative Diversity
01:09:57 Native Ads for Different Platforms
01:13:43 Measuring Performance by Placement
01:15:40 The Rise of Instagram Reels
01:18:27 Challenges and Limitations of Ad Platforms
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