In this episode, Nikki chats with Seattle based Pilates teacher Ellen Nixon about their fitness memories from growing up in the 90's and how it's shaped their perspective of movement now.

They discuss:

- The Presidential Fitness Test and the structure of gym class and why they found it problematic for inspiring kids to enjoy physical activity

- How the term athlete can be a turn off for a lot of kids (and later adults) who don't feel like they fit into that category

- The importance of listening to your clients and being mindful not to assume they have a specific goal (e.g. weight loss).