In this episode, we welcome an incredible teacher of Luis, Byron Katie. She is a speaker and author who teaches a method of self-inquiry known as "The Work."

Byron and Luis muse on what it means to relate to the ego and to our thoughts rather than trying to beat the ego or suppress our thoughts, i.e. what it means to be in a place of curiosity rather than judgement. The Work was born directly out of Byron Katie’s experience and she shares with us the impact it has had on her life as well as for other students of The Work.

Also, we get to witness The Work in action! Byron guides Luis through The Work in relation to an intrusive thought he had right before the recording of this episode.

For more information on Byron's work, visit: https://thework.com/

For more information on Luis' work, visit: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/

You can pre-order the book here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/the-book

You can register for the FREE Food Therapy session here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/events/beans

You can read more about, and register for, the retreat at Broughton in the UK here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/broughton-2026

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