It's almost exactly the one year anniversary since we released this episode! Martha's interview with Luis is one of our most listened to podcast episodes, so we decided to re-share it in case you haven't heard it, or if you wanted to revisit the wisdom within it.

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In this episode, Luis is joined by Martha Beck, a Harvard-trained sociologist, world-renowned coach and New York Times bestselling author. Martha wrote The Way of Integrity which Luis lovingly refers to as "The Guide on How to Stop Fawning."

Martha and Luis engage in a dynamic conversation about trauma response of fawning, how fawning impacted their lives, and how it felt to release that trauma response. They explore why the body hates to lie, i.e. the physical manifestations that occur in our bodies when we suppress our truths and desires as well as why we often times lose our integrity not because we are bad but because we are trying so hard to be good.

Martha also shares with us what she learns from her integrity cleanses, i.e. abstaining from lying for a year, and what it was like to coach Oprah through a somatic practice of understanding a fawn response.

For more information on Martha's work, visit: https://marthabeck.com/

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