In this Joel + Yerasimos (4-time Backgammon Champion & Alex Honnold expert) duo episode, we go deep into one of the most important questions a human being can ask themselves: what’s the tower I’m here to climb, and why am I avoiding it? From the psychology of fear and the trap of “comfort living,” to the brutal honesty required to build real self-esteem, we explore why most people unknowingly choose a half-lived life…and call it normal. We talk discipline, constraint, mastery, and the unseen cost of never committing fully, because endless options aren’t freedom. Devotion is. If you’ve felt that quiet inner frustration—that sense that you’re meant for more but you’re holding back—this conversation is a wake-up call: choose your tower…and climb it.

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