[dropcap]I[/dropcap]n Part 2 of Motherhood, Josie interviews Sam and Kristen to understand more about the nature of nurturing, when a lack of a desire to be a mother is at odds with official Church teachings, and how aspirant mothers dealing with an inability to conceive can also feel out of place in a Latter-day Saint culture that so heavily glorifies the ideal of motherhood.

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Josie:

[0:00] Hey Tim this is Josie gleave.

Happy Mother's Day to those parts of the world currently celebrating and do those women who truly feel Joy on this day for others it's more of a roller coaster or maybe even totally depressing.

I'm back today with more interviews thoughts and questions about motherhood so whatever you're feeling I hope this helps.

This is motherhood part 2.

Intro Music

Josie:

[0:44] In Genesis 32 Jacob is said to have wrestled with a man.

[0:57] There are many in.

[1:09] There are two motherhood experiences I wrestle with a lot some women do not feel a natural desire to birth their own children they Wonder.

Some women struggle with infertility and in a cruel Twist of humankind is nature is to want what they cannot have these women yearn for shoulder.

Womanhood is defined by motherhood the woman who does not want and the woman who cannot have.

Feel like they are flawed where is that craving an animal instinct to reproduce a woman's nature to nurture or what.

By Allah.

[2:10] As if somehow using my healthy body to have a baby would make the other woman feel better even though it.

[2:20] Motherhood experiences are a little taboo to the woman who says she does not want to have children she's told she will eventually change her mind to the woman who cannot.

[2:33] They don't know what to say sometimes we forget that we can just listen so let's do that let me introduce you to Sam She is a.

[3:00] And 7 months ago Sam gave birth to their first.

Sam and I bonded when we were both young marrieds without any children I remember the moment I got married this pressure to have kids settled in but I knew it would take me several years to get to that point for any.

How old at the thought of having children they learn this isn't a topic to mention at church there's no written rule for this of course but it is assumed that a woman.

[3:32] Are not in line with God's will maybe but nevertheless those feelings.

Sam:

[3:58] They must have made something that I liked about kids for me to want to study Primary School teaching but I stopped doing that for about five years I kind of thought.

Yeah I didn't I didn't want to keep teaching I couldn't see myself being a mother and being a teacher I felt like.

I was giving myself all day everyday to other people's kids and I thought I'm not sure that I could,

continue to do that and then have my orange children and come hard to give what I wanted to go to give to my our children so that I guess that was.

[4:32] My light pains and in my early twenties when I was studying and I started teaching.

I've never really had a strong desire to want to be a mother like I'm the oldest of five children,

no but I was going against having children but I just never really felt like I had that desire that I think.

You know mother tells a lot of women have I guess so in a way as well,

with my younger siblings I was responsible for a lot about helping them out and do some ways I felt like different but I felt like I'd hoped to raise some children already Ashley kind of felt like going through my twenties.

I was just really being content not to have any children.

Church cultures so strong families I guess I kind of feel by the time I turned 30 maybe I'll be married and maybe thi...