Lori Desautels is an assistant professor in the College of Education at Butler University in Indianapolis.  Dr. Desautels is especially interested in applying the social and affective neurosciences, including polyvagal theory, into the education setting.  Dr. Desautels also spends two days a week in the classroom, currently with 7th graders, where she has the opportunity to be applying the concepts she is teaching to other educators.  

Dr. Desautels remembers that even before she moved into academia or had the opportunity to be exposed to social neuroscience she had a lot of curiosity about what behavior really is.  She’s always been on a quest to find out what is driving behavior (sound familiar?!).

Now equipped with the science of behavior, including the autonomic nervous system, she is tenaciously working to bring this science to classroom educations. 

In today's episode, Dr. Desautels gives us a primer in:

• The brainstem
• Fight/flight/collapse behaviors
• How to help kids
• How to help adults
• Discipline versus punishment.  

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Dr. Desautels’ website: Revelations in Education

Her book: Connection over Compliance: Rewiring our Perceptions of Discipline can be ordered HERE on Amazon.  The audio book is coming soon!

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