Today's episode is all about building capacity for difference: having the capacity to express our differences and having the capacity to receive the differences of others.

Camille Leak is a Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DEI) Practitioner and the Community Manager for Holistic Life Navigation -- in these roles, she helps to facilitate uncomfortable conversations. She is also and a former student of  my 6-week course. Her approach to navigating difference really stood out to me during the course and I wanted to learn more about her journey and subsequently choose to invite her to join the team!

In this episode, she shares a bit of her healing journey and how she maintains the capacity to explore things like bias, prejudice and discrimination on a regular basis. In particular, how leaning into curiosity helps us to work and communicate across difference. Camille's work focuses on honest discovery -- not saying the "right" thing or trying to change someone's mind.

For more info on Camille's work visit: https://www.realtalkbravespaces.com/; LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/camilleleak

For more info on Luis' work visit: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/

You can register for the FREE Food Therapy session here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/events/beans

You can pre-order the book here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/the-book

You can read more about, and register for, the retreat at Broughton in the UK here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/broughton-2026

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