Sam Dabb has loved live music all her life and she has run the Le Pub music venue in Newport for decades. 

Le Pub is one of the 130 venues being supported by the National Lottery this summer, as part of the United By Music tour. 

I talked to Sam about her love of small gigs, about growing up in a pub herself, and about bringing her own daughter up in a pub and live music environment. 

We also talked about her frequent visits to the jungle in Calais, when her daughter was a teenager, to help the refugees living there. 

Spinning Plates is presented by Sophie Ellis-Bextor, produced by Claire Jones and post-production by Richard Jones

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