Josh and Ella discuss what life is like to have chronic symptoms of anxiety. One of the most common symptoms is called derealisation. If you have derealisation, all it really means is you have a heightened blood oxygen level from hyperventilation and are experiencing a “fight or flight” response. As a result you get a feeling like you are slightly detached from reality. You may have experienced this yourself whether or not you have chronic anxiety, but perhaps felt aloof when you received some shocking news. Josh and Ella also weigh in on the topic with examples from their lives. Ella likes Midnight Gospel as an ex-stoner Canadian and Josh doesn’t, which is okay.

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