Tawny and Lisa talk to acclaimed author and friend, Ruby Warrington, about her new book, WOMEN WITHOUT KIDS: THE REVOLUTIONARY RISE OF AN UNSUNG SISTERHOOD. Many listeners will know Ruby from her groundbreaking book, SOBER CURIOUS, which coined the term. With 20+ years’ experience as a lifestyle journalist and editor, Ruby is known as an astute cultural commentator and true thought leader. They talk about society’s view on women without kids, generational caretaking, and how we value what we do with our lives.

Music Minute features Madonna in Desperately Seeking Susan.

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