Tawny and Lisa talk about addiction as a family disease. Whether it’s with your birth family or your chosen family (or both!), healing individually and as unit can break cycles of addiction and unhealthy behaviors. They both talk about their experiences with their families and how it’s an imperfect journey that never really ends.

Music Minute features Sister Sledge, Everclear, The Killers and Billie Eilish.

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Tawny recommends these books on boundaries and codependency: The Origins of You, Set Boundaries, Find Peace, The Book of Boundaries

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Tawny and Lisa talk with Ted Mandell, Associate Teaching Professor at the University of Notre Dame’s Department of Film, Television, and Theatre. Tawny has been a guest speaker for Ted’s class, “Drunk on Film: The Psychology of Storytelling with Alcohol and its Effects on Alcohol Consumption.” They talk about the reasons kids drink more when they get to college, the persistence of the excessive drinking culture, and ways to reframe how students think about alcohol.

Music Minute features a one-week course Ted taught with Rock n Roll Hall of Fame inductee Todd Rundgren. 

Check out the PBS Newshour feature about “Drunk on Film.”

Check out the Drunk on Film website

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Tawny and Lisa talk with Hilary Sheinbaum about her new workbook, GOING DRY: A Practical Guide to Drinking Less and Living More. The workbook takes readers through all phases of a sober or sober-curious journey, ranging from assessing your relationship with drinking to setting realistic expectations to discovering new experiences that bring you joy without booze. 

Music Minute features Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor Swift, and Flow State on Substack 

Get GOING DRY: A Practical Guide to Drinking Less and Living More 

Get The Dry Challenge: How to Lose the Booze for Dry January, Sober October, and Any Other Alcohol-Free Month 

Check out Hilary’s TED Talk, Dry Dating: Why and How 

Check out Hilary’s GoingDry.co event series.

Find Hilary on IG: @hilarywritesny and @goingdry.co 

More on socials: #goingdrybook

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Tawny and Lisa talk with Lindsay Sutherland Boal, a coach, advocate, and the founder of both The Uncovery App and She Walks Canada, which support women overcoming problematic relationships with alcohol. They chat about gray-area drinking and the concept of “rock enough,” the acknowledgement that you don’t need a “rock bottom” crisis to quit drinking. The Uncovery App is dedicated to the pursuit of alcohol-free living through self-investigation and support. She Walks Canada organizes walks around the world to support recovery and foster community.

Music Minute features Lindsay’s opera career and tropical lounge music.

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On Instagram: @theuncoveryapp and @shewalkscanada

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Tawny and Lisa are taking a summer break from the podcast, but encore episodes will air until they’re back in September. They talk about how it feels to pause and what they’ll be doing. It’s an opportunity for play and a chance to reset and reflect. But giving themselves time off brings up different emotions for both of them. They go deep on their feelings about routines, financial insecurity, and perfection.

Music Minute features Sheryl Crow, The White Stripes, and Eminem

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City girls love nature, too! Tawny and Lisa talk about the role it plays in their recoveries. Spending time in nature is linked to both cognitive benefits and improvements in mood, mental health and emotional well-being. But you can also bring nature into the home with herbs, plants, flowers or anything that connects with you. And nature is not just the mountains or the ocean – it can be anywhere you feel connected, like a dog park in the city!

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Music Minute features Michael Jackson, Rolling Stones, Creedence Clearwater Revival, and Soundgarden

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Tawny and Lisa talk about the power of being with people in person, including on their recent travels. What’s different when we’re off the screens? How do we motivate ourselves when it feels easier to just stay home? Can we find the flexibility to pick up the phone when it’s not on the calendar? And how do we manage our energy budgets when sometimes the juice just isn’t there? Hint: Phone a friend!

Music Minute features Blondie, Lionel Richie, Adele and The Police

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Chris Marshall, founder of Sans Bar, the first non-alcoholic bar in North America, wrote a book! Faster Than Light covers Chris’ journey, shaped by early childhood trauma, from being a young Black man in an affluent Texas suburb to rising as a leader in the recovery community. He talks with Tawny and Lisa about the writing process and entrepreneurism. Then they dig into Sans Bar, Sans Bar Academy, and Chris’ role in sparking a movement rooted in authentic, alcohol-free connection. The moral of the story: Don’t rush it!

Music Minute features Explosions in the Sky and Hamilton Soundtrack

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Tiffany Jenkins, the bestselling author of High Achiever, is here! She’s out with a new can’t-put-it-down memoir, A Clean Mess. It chronicles her life after addiction—the raw, the dark, and the hilarious—from setting out with nothing but a backpack to discovering her marriage was built on a shakier foundation than she’d ever imagined to staying sober when life fell apart. She talks with Tawny and Lisa about asking for help, connection with a sober community, gratitude, and sharing her story publicly.

Music Minute features Blue October

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Tawny spent a week teaching a writing course in Dublin, followed by a long weekend pursuing Parisian pleasure. She talks about the impact of her trip, both on her recovery and her art. With the pressure off, she immersed herself in being present on the trip, and new ideas emerged. Tawny’s carrying the vibe of the trip into her everyday now, including redesigning her office to reflect how she feels on the inside. They also discuss Dublin’s thriving non-alcoholic drink scene. Guinness 0 on tap everywhere!

Music Minute features Jim Morrison, Lorde, and Janet Jackson

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