In this episode, Patrick Casale and Jamie Roberts, therapist, author, and founder of NeuroPebble Corp, talk about the realities of neurodivergent entrepreneurship and building an affirming community for mental health clinicians and creators, referencing Jamie's company, NeuroPebble, how to handle balancing multiple projects, and the journey of writing her second book.

Here are 3 key takeaways:

1. Accessibility and Neurodivergence Matter: Creating spaces like NeuroPebble isn’t just about cataloging trainings—it’s about reducing executive function burdens for both presenters and learners, meeting people where they are, and making high-quality resources accessible in neuroaffirming ways.
2. Pacing and Boundaries Are Essential: Whether it’s scaling back on group practice duties to focus on writing, or confronting the grief of acknowledging our limitations and capacity, it’s crucial for neurodivergent entrepreneurs to honor their natural rhythms and set sustainable boundaries.
3. There’s Room for Every Story: The entrepreneurial path can feel isolating, but there’s immense value in sharing your story, workshop, or course—even if someone else is doing something similar. Your perspective matters, and there’s always space for more voices in this community.

If you’re a neurodivergent clinician, entrepreneur, or creative, this conversation encourages you to find your pace, seek out community, and keep telling your story.

More about Jamie:

Jamie Roberts is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. Jamie is AuDHD (Autistic & ADHD) and Dyslexic, and actively shares her experiences with her later-in-life diagnosis as the Neurodivergent Therapist across social media and is an active speaker on Neurodivergent and Teen topics. She is the Founder of NeuroPebble Corp, a continuing education platform for neuroaffirming clinical trainings from instructors with lived experience, as well as the founder of Equilibrium Counseling Services, a teen and young adult group practice in Southern California. She is the author of Mindfulness for Teen Anxiety, and her second book will be out March 2026 titled Neurodiversity for Teen Girls.

• Instagram: instagram.com/neurodivergenttherapist
• TikTok: tiktok.com/@neurodivergenttherapist
• NeuroPebble Instagram: instagram.com/neuropebble
• Link to the course that Patrick and Jamie are promoting: neuropebble.learnworlds.com/course/audhd-entrepreneur

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We have two retreats in Queenstown, New Zealand. The first is for Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs from March 1st to 8th, and the second retreat, Beyond Private Practice, focuses on moving beyond one-on-one therapy and creating alternative income streams from March 15th to 22nd.

Spaces are limited, so check the links to sign up today. Doubt yourself, do it anyway!

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Alma

I want to thank Alma for sponsoring this episode.

Building and managing the practice you want can be challenging. That’s why Alma offers tools and resources to help you build not just any practice, but your private practice. They’ll help you navigate insurance, access referrals who are the right fit for you, and efficiently manage administrative tasks — so you can spend less time on the details, and more time delivering great care. You support your clients. Alma supports you. Visit helloalma.com/ATPP to learn more.

All Things Private Practice — 2025 & 2026 Retreats

All Things Private Practice has some amazing retreat experiences coming up in 2025 and 2026. Join us in Edinburgh, Scotland for the second Doubt Yourself, Do It Anyway Summit from July 14th to 17th, 2025! We have an incredible lineup of 12 speakers and offer 12 MBCCEs. If you're a leader or aspiring to start a group practice, join our Leadership Retreat in Chania, Crete, from September 6th to 11th. In 2026, we have two retreats in Queenstown, New Zealand. The first is for Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs from March 1st to 8th, and the second retreat, Beyond Private Practice, focuses on moving beyond one-on-one therapy and creating alternative income streams from March 15th to 22nd. Spaces are limited, so check the links to sign up today. Doubt yourself, do it anyway!

Doubt Yourself, Do It Anyway Summit in Scotland: https://www.empoweredescapes.com/scotland-july-2025-summit

Leadership Retreat in Chania, Crete: https://www.empoweredescapes.com/greece-retreat-2025

Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs in Queenstown, New Zealand: https://www.allthingspractice.com/new-zealand-neurodivergent

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Resilient Mind Counseling

It's Patrick. Some of you may know that I own a group therapy practice in North Carolina, Resilient Mind Counseling. We specialize in supporting the Neurodivergent, LGBTQIA+, and Black, Brown, and Asian communities online and across North Carolina. We also have limited in-person openings at our offices in Asheville and Cary. We really love working with clients who are coming to terms with both Autism and ADHD discoveries later in life or questioning, as well as the intersections of race, gender, identity, and orientation. All of our therapists have lived experience and identify as AuDHD, Autistic, or ADHD. Our team of affirming therapists offers a safe, anti-racist, anti-oppressive, inclusive, and accessible space where you can show up exactly as you are—no masking, no judgment, and no need to make eye contact, just real connection and healing. We accept most commercial insurances like Blue Cross Blue Shield, United, Aetna, and Med Cost, as well as self-pay options. We currently have openings for new clients. Visit our website at resilientmindcounseling.com. You can also text or call our HIPAA-compliant phone line at (828) 515-1246, or email us at [email protected].