Catch up with the boys as they hang with Mondo, yes he's back, and then have a great conversation with author and all around smart guy Lance Ford. The discussion revolves around the dangers and development of hierarchical business model leadership structures in the western church, and how those models might not be the best way to foster community and the development of the gifts God gave His people. If you are happy sitting on the sidelines and accepting that pastors are the ones who should be in the game, make sure to not listen to this one. Tune in next week for, "I'm ok, You're ok."