Fresh off the release of his new training program Iron Intelligence (http://www.bodybuilding.com/ironintelligence), we spend an hour with one of the world's top bodybuilders. How did he get there? How healthy is he? Why does he eat so much freaking kale? Listen to find out.

Highlights:

- Why veggies are Evan's "fourth macro"

- His favorite veggies (Hint: Not broccoli and asparagus)

- Is kale the key to feeling as good as you look?

- How action figures inspired Evan to take up lifting

- Not your typical sand-kicked-in-the-face origin story

- From pudgy to "running and starvation"

- Evan's journey from lifter to bodybuilder

- Why equating pain with progress made all the difference

- Keto-style prep vs high protein, low carb, low fat

- Evan's "natural weight" if he stopped lifting and eating huge

- How his body handles yard work

- Why cardio is key for feeling good

- Evan's "two types of bodybuilders"

- Sure, but how healthy is he?

- Why living a good, clean life is underrated

- Iron Intelligence: The program, who it's for, and how to get the most out of it

Publish Date: Friday, November 11, 2016

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