On today's episode, Cassie Parks and Elle Russ chat about why we've been measuring success all wrong. What if the joy of doing something - the writing, the singing, the creating, the showing up...was always the real prize? They talk about how our brains are wired to dismiss experiences that don't come with a receipt, the science of intrinsic motivation, and why the things you'll remember on your deathbed have very little to do with outcomes. If you've ever done something you loved and then called it a waste of time because nobody clapped or paid you for it, this episode is your permission slip to stop that forever.

Learn more about Cassie HERE. Learn more about Elle HERE.