In this soulful and vulnerable episode of Food Shrinks, Molly C and Molly P sit down for a heartfelt conversation about spirituality, what it means, how it manifests in recovery, and why it has become the cornerstone of their healing. With Clarissa off on vacation (an Alaska cruise, anyone?), the Mollys dive deep into how spirituality is not about finding answers, but about the willingness to see life differently.

They share personal stories, therapeutic insights, and unexpected turning points, from early resistance to mindset shifts, to dreamcatchers in correctional facilities, to how trauma, addiction, and spiritual transformation are intricately linked. Whether you’re just starting your journey or questioning the next step, this episode invites you to gently open the door to something greater than pain. and maybe even greater than you.

In this episode, we discuss: 🩷Why spirituality in recovery isn’t about religion (and how it often starts with pain) 🩷The “evil filter,” cognitive distortions, and how therapy and neurofeedback helped Molly P shift her lens 🩷What it means to wear different “glasses” and let life in fully—ugly, beautiful, and everything in between 🩷The connection between trauma, control, addiction, and our resistance to trust 🩷Spirituality as both armor and surrender 🩷Why belief is just a thought you keep thinking—and how we can learn to tell a new story

Listener takeaways: 🩷You don’t need to have it all figured out to begin a spiritual path 🩷Resistance doesn’t mean you’re broken—it might just mean you need a new way in 🩷You are allowed to believe something new about yourself and your life 🩷There are infinite ways to reconnect with something bigger than your wound

Quotes we love: 🩷“Pain is usually the only way we get to a spiritual life—because it’s the moment we realize this isn’t working anymore.” 🩷“Spirituality has become a kind of armor between me and life on life’s terms—it helps me reframe the story.” 🩷“The voice of trauma and addiction comes in the same ringtone—it takes time to know which part of you is speaking.”

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