I get HYPED to talk to my friends who are seminary professors or are people who talk about prayer...they're basically like my version of a Kardashian...so basically, y'all are in for a TREAT with this conversation. Esau McCaulley's latest book, How Far to the Promised Land, is an eye-opening and a profoundly honest story. I really enjoyed the book and was so honored to have this conversation. We talked about our love for Scotland, black spirituality, and OF COURSE we had to talk about the Gospels! I'm so thankful for Esau's teaching! And I can't wait to have him back with us to do a deeper dive on the Gospels!

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NYTimes bestselling Christian author, speaker, and host of the That Sounds Fun Podcast, Annie F. Downs shares with you some of her favorite things: new books, faith conversations, entertainers not to miss, and interviews with friends.

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