Y'all are in for a TREAT! This is a special and vulnerable conversation with Dr. Anita Phillips. She is so wise and honest and I loved our conversation about how emotions reveal what we need, the importance of loving our bodies, and what to do with heart pain. I know, I know...I probably should thank you for participating in my counseling session...Dr. Anita's book The Garden Within is extraordinary. Truly. Her book goes so much deeper than what we had time for in this episode and I'm telling you...this is the book you need in your life. If you want more of Dr. Anita's voice in your life (I know I do!) be sure to check out her podcast In the Light with Dr. Anita Phillips.

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NYTimes bestselling Christian author, speaker, and host of the That Sounds Fun Podcast, Annie F. Downs shares with you some of her favorite things: new books, faith conversations, entertainers not to miss, and interviews with friends.

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