Lisa and Tawny revisit their reasons for getting sober and how they channeled creativity in their recovery. Lisa wrote a book, Tawny became a freelance writer/blogger, and they started this podcast! The two also discuss the role that “liquid courage” played in their drinking lives and how they found confidence in sobriety.

The Music Minute features “Snow” by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and “Doesn’t Remind Me” by Audioslave