Feminine Chaos

Fellas, is it gay to go maskless? Kat and Phoebe discuss recent coverage of the few, the proud, the covid faithful. Also, Kat has a generous offer for those who preorder her new book!

Links:

Libs of TikTok (via) finds someone saying you can be gay but not queer if you don’t mask.

Forever Covid: Mx. And Mx. nix leaving the house. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/26/us/covid-masks-risk.html

Emma Green on the forever-ers: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-activism/the-case-for-wearing-masks-forever 

You Must Remember This is available for preorder wherever books are sold!

https://www.harpercollins.com/products/you-must-remember-this-kat-rosenfield?variant=40371773407266

Kat and Phoebe discuss the kissing of cheeks, the petting of pets, the cancellation of Junot Diaz, and the intolerable slander of Seinfeld by a New Yorker essayist.

LINKS:

Ben Smith on Junot Diaz, notorious cheek-kisser: https://www.semafor.com/article/11/27/2022/junot-diaz-in-limbo

Kat's tweets on l’affaire bisou:

Saïd Sayrafiezadeh on finding “Seinfeld” problematic: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/i-finally-watched-seinfeld?utm_source=NYR_REG_GATE

Meghan Daum on literary citizenship:

Seinfeld kismet on the tyranny of the kiss hello:

[singing]

I am the very model of a modern Demisexual

My sexual proclivities are purely hypothetical

I’m here to say it loud and proud, my internet confessional

I’ve never touched a boob, which makes me very intersectional!

LINKS:

Kat offends Twitter's demisexuals: https://unherd.com/2022/11/demisexuals-are-scared-of-sex/

Phoebe watches 1990s YouTube:

The complete “Pam” song:

It’s El Dia de los Edgelords on Feminine Chaos! Kat and Phoebe discuss the mom who will not be apologizing for committing a Halloween war crime, the provenance of a crudely drawn picture of a wiener, and the Elon Musk Twitter takeover that will soon relegate our blue checks to the dustbin of history.

Links:

Phoebe on Twitter’s Musk Era: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-early-returns-from-twitters-new-era-have-been-less-than/

Kat on weird political tribalism: https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2022/11/07/why-i-keep-getting-mistaken-for-a-conservative/

Kat and Phoebe discuss the woman who committed literal violence by discussing her happy marriage on Twitter, the self-congratulatory feminists of “Gutsy”, and the girlfriend who stayed home to heat (but not eat) her boyfriend’s soup.

Links:

Daisey aka lilplantmami, sharing how #blessed her existence is:

The privilege. The privilege!

Stay at home girlfriends of TikTok: https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/stay-at-home-girlfriend-journal-tiktok/

Amy Schumer, Hillary Clinton, and Chelsea Clinton spill their Guts:

Kat and Phoebe discuss the professor who was fired for making organic chemistry too hard, and the Guggenheim curator who was fired for making an enemy of the wrong art monster.

Links:

At NYU, Students Were Failing Organic Chemistry. Whose Fault Was It? - The New York Times

Phoebe on Team Brats

A prior, relevant Feminine Chaos:

The Guggenheim’s Scapegoat - The Atlantic

Chaedria LaBouvier's amazing tweet threads: 1, 2, 3

Phoebe's roundup mentioning Guggengate

Kat and Phoebe take on a series of pendulous topics: the “disgusting” appropriation of serial killer culture, Adam Levine’s text messages, and the Canadian shop teacher who gives new meaning to the term “rubber baby buggy bumpers.”

Links:

Phoebe on the boobs: Opinion: Ontario teacher’s prosthetic bust offers a lesson about body shaming - The Globe and Mail

Woody Allen's Giant Boob scene

Wait, what if: Was the fake boobs teacher a hoax? - The Post

As always, Philip Roth ties it all together: The Breast, a novel

Special guest Tara Henley joins Kat and Phoebe to discuss leaning in, leaning out, and leaning away from cat ownership for extremely compelling reasons.

Links:

Helen Andrews essay: Lean Out - The American Mind

About Tara's documentaryThe making of '39': field notes from producer Tara Henley | CBC Radio

Tara on Substack: A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle

Tara's documentary: Thirty nine. Female. Crazy job. No partner. No kids. AAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!! | CBC Radio

Rosen's Words About Ann Romney Fuel 'Mommy Wars' : NPR

An eligible bachelor: Chris Dating Info

A question from the Feminine Chaos AMA launches Kat and Phoebe into a free-associating chat about group chats as commune, men going their own way in the wilderness, “I’m with stupid” merchandise, and the internet newsletters that tell us how to live. 

Links:

Lyz Lenz on the life-sustaining group chat

Anne Helen Petersen's manifesto on behaving like a normal person

Our previous episode on the "tragic heterosexuality" book:

Kat introduces Phoebe to a DEI training failure so cringe you'll want to d-i-e, and Phoebe unpacks the sociology beef that can only be settled with a dance off. (With special cameo appearances from two barking poodles, one noisy vacuum, one shrieking toddler, and the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.)

Links:

Wellcome's "womp, womp" thread on its diversity failures

Wellcome's diversity report: PDF

The Konference Karen saga: 1, 2, 3, 4 (Note: 4 is a whole thread)