Feminine Chaos

Feminine Chaos

By Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat RosenfieldSociety & CultureNews
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Feminine Chaos episodes

  • The Vibes, They Are a Shiftin'

    Kat is joined by Leigh Stein for a discussion of the vibe shift (whatever that is.) A longer version of this conversation is available for premium subscribers on Substack.

    Links:

    * A Vibe Shift Is Coming. Will Any of Us Survive It?

    * Kat on intimacy: The death of intimacy - UnHerd

    * Maybe Baby essay:

    * Coronavirus Sex Guidelines Must Consider Virtual Safety | Teen Vogue

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    46 min
  • Joe Rogan, Bat Boy, and Journalism for the Working Class

    Kat is joined by Batya Ungar-Sargon to talk about the Joe Rogan controversy, the Great Moon Hoax, and moving the media needle away from contempt for the working class. 


    Links:

    Batya's book: Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy Kindle Edition

    Kat's New Statesman article: The Joe Rogan controversy isn't about truth – it's about control - New Statesman

    Spotify Quietly Pulls Over 70 Episodes of Joe Rogan's Podcast: Report

    More on the Moon Hoax: "The Great Moon Hoax" Is published in the "New York Sun" - HISTORY








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    44 min
  • On Humanizing the Bad Men

    Kat is joined by journalist Christie Smythe to discuss justice reform, trial by media, the Kyle Rittenhouse affair, and a one-year retrospective on the Elle article in which she talked about her relationship with Martin Shkreli. An extended cut of this interview is available on our Patreon.


    Links:

    The Journalist and the Pharma Bro

    Christie at Business of Business: Latest Articles

    Tucker Carlson’s exclusive Rittenhouse interview draws nearly 5 million viewers to top CNN, MSNBC combine



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    42 min
  • Art Is Supposed to Be Mean

    Kat is joined by poet and cultural critic Alice Gribbin for a discussion about art, empathy, Succession, and Shakespeare. An extended cut of this interview is available on Patreon.


    Links:

    Alice's empathy essay: https://alicegribbin.substack.com/p/the-empathy-racket

    The bad essay about political literature: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/opinion/fiction-poetry-trump.html


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    47 min
  • Reparations, Repentance, and Making More Pie (with Nancy Rommelman)

    Kat is joined by reporter and author Nancy Rommelman to talk about who's getting paid for the Dave Chappelle controversy, who's getting hurt by Instagram, and who should repent, motherf***er, repent!

    Links:

    Chappelle coverage:

    Netflix made a mess of the Dave Chappelle controversy. It's a crisis of Netflix's own making

    TV director compares transgender people's treatment to the HOLOCAUST

    ‎Blocked and Reported: Episode 87: HE'S GOT A WEAPON! on Apple Podcasts

    Dave Chappelle Addresses Netflix Controversy, Not 'Bending to Demands'

    Kat on Chappelle: The PR campaign at the heart of the war on Netflix - The Spectator World

    Nancy's substack: Make More Pie

    Nancy's piece about J.T. Leroy: The Lies and Follies of Laura Albert, aka JT LeRoy


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    43 min
  • Conflict Is Stored in the Kidneys

    Kat is joined by Leigh Stein (novelist, poet) and Penny Lane (documentary filmmaker, kidney sharer) for a discussion about literary drama, organ donation, urban legends, and Bad Art Friends.


    Links:

    Who Is the Bad Art Friend?

    On the Internet, We're Always Famous

    Where do I start?

    Penny Lane's website: https://pennylaneismyrealname.com/bio/

    Leigh Stein's website: https://www.leighstein.com/



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    57 min
  • In the Tumblrweeds

    Kat is joined by Katherine Dee, a.k.a. Default Friend, for a conversation about Tumblr's discursive power and lesser-known internet subcultures .


    Katherine's work:

    Default Wisdom

    Tumblr U.

    Satire in the city

    Katherine Dee (@default_friend)



    Advertising campaign for American Horror Story illustrating the tumblr-to-TV pipeline: 15 Times "AHS: Cult" Did It's Best To Make You Trypophobic

    Tumblr's proto-#MeTooing of John Green: John Green Responded On Tumblr To Accusations Of Sexual Abuse

    A NYT essay from the creator of the "problematic fave" callout blog: I Was Your Fave Is Problematic



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    41 min
  • Poetic Justice

    Kat talks with poet and novelist Leigh Stein about the world of contemporary poetry scandals. An extended version of this episode is available for subscribers on Patreon.


    Links:

    Jia Tolentino poem archived https://archive.is/Dzrjt

    Poetry magazine published a child porn convict in its prison issue, but did it deserve the backlash?

    Poetry Twitter Debates Whether 'After' Poems are Plagiarism

    A very unsympathetic (to Jia) account of the allegations against her family: NYT Bestselling Author Jia Tolentino Defends Her Human Trafficker Parents

    Lauren Oyler · Ha ha! Ha ha! Jia Tolentino · LRB 13 January 2020


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    44 min
  • Shrill and Shriller

    Kat and Phoebe discuss the (dis)pleasures of being scolded by sitcoms, evolving norms surrounding office-appropriate hairstyles, and a bizarre controversy surrounding Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt star Ellie Kemper. 



    A clip from Shrill: BBC Three on Twitter: "Yikes."

    NYT: Why 'Kim's Convenience' Is 'Quietly Revolutionary'

    Slate: Ellie Kemper, queen of the Veiled Prophet Ball: “KKK princess” controversy, explained.

    Kat’s article about Ellie Kemper: Ellie Kemper and Twitter's Two Minutes Hate - The Spectator World

    Dad Pulls Biracial Daughter Out of School After Classmate and School Employee Cut Her Hair



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    1 hr 1 min
  • The Sins of the Biographer Shall Be Visited Upon the Biographee

    Kat and Phoebe discuss the scandalous allegations against Philip Roth biographer Blake Bailey and the eternally-creeping concept of "grooming."


    Links:

    Slate: Blake Bailey's former eighth grade student on being sexually assaulted by him years later.

    Also Slate: Blake Bailey's former Lusher students on how their eighth grade teacher groomed them.

    NOLA: Author Blake Bailey accused of abusing ex-Lusher students' trust for sex; denies illegal conduct

    Sexual Assault Allegations Against Biographer Halt Shipping of His Roth Book

    Some statistics: Clearance rate - crime by type in the US 2019


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    58 min

About Feminine Chaos

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Problematic faves, dissident feminism, and poodle interruptions: this is Feminine Chaos, featuring cultural commentary from Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfield.

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