The Out of the Cave Podcast

Flip It and Reverse It with Elyse Schunkewitz, LCSW


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Lisa sits down with Elyse Schunkewitz, LCSW again. This time the roles are reversed and Elyse interviews Lisa about the personal, educational, and professional experiences that have shaped the Out of the Cave Group Coaching Program and discuss how Lisa serves her clients.

Topics Include:

  • The difference between Out of the Cave and eating disorder treatment

  • The Binge Restrict Cycle

  • Body Image

  • Confidence vs Self-Esteem

  • Systemic Oppression and Thin Privilege 

  • [2:30] Lisa explains how she developed the philosophy that her group coaching program is built upon and shares the influences that has brought her to where she is today, including her lived experience, education and relationships she has built throughout the years

    [14:00] Lisa shares what it means to work with her as a client inside the 14 week group coaching container

    [23:10] Lisa gives her thoughts on intuitive eating, anti-diet culture, and eating disorder treatment

    [42:00] Lisa dives deeper into what she means when she says, “I help people release the addiction of the illusion of control around their bodies.”

    [52:00] Elyse and Lisa discuss the dichotomy of confidence and self-esteem 

    *The views of podcast guests do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of Lisa Schlosberg or Out of the Cave, LLC.

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