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Former First Lady (Michelle Obama): This Is A Scam! People Were Running From Us Because We Were Black! I Was Bitter About The Racism I Received!

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Michelle Obama served as the First Lady of the United States, entering the White House alongside Barack Obama. In this candid conversation, she joins Steven with her brother Craig Robinson, a former college basketball coach turned executive, to open up about everything from Trump’s inauguration to marriage challenges, grief, and rediscovering her purpose.


Widely regarded as one of today’s most influential voices on leadership, identity, and social progress, Michelle offers a rare, intimate look at her personal journey.


Together, they discuss:

  • How their parents instilled empathy, discipline, and resilience growing up amid racial tension.

  • Michelle’s journey through elite schools and corporate law, driven by a need to tick society’s boxes.

  • The evolution of Michelle and Barack’s relationship, from colleagues to lifelong partners.

  • Fertility struggles, parenting tips, and what it really takes to sustain a long-term marriage.

    • Navigating life in the White House, grief, personal boundaries, and rediscovering her true calling.


      00:00 Intro

      02:11 Michelle and Craig's Childhood

      04:48 Values Learned from Their Parents

      08:45 Michelle Skipping Second Grade

      12:16 The Role of Race in Their Childhood

      15:19 What "White Flight" Means

      17:01 Coping with Racism

      20:55 Overcoming Being Underestimated

      26:33 Michelle's Search for Identity

      30:20 Meeting Barack

      31:59 Introducing Barack to the Family

      33:48 Why Michelle Initially Rejected Barack

      37:28 Michelle's Career Change: Pursuing Joy

      40:52 Relationship with Barack

      44:56 Going to Counseling with Barack

      49:34 Pregnancy Struggles

      56:27 Hardest Moments in Their Marriage

      57:31 Barack Obama Runs for Public Office

      01:03:28 What I Should Have Said to Barack

      01:07:11 Being the First Black First Lady and Facing Scrutiny

      01:14:09 Reflections on a Sad Time

      01:15:17 Remembering Your Mother

      01:16:53 The Death of Your Mother

      01:18:36 Processing the Grief

      01:20:41 Not Attending Trump’s Inauguration


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