Eleanor Mills had a very fabulous job, one that she had built her life and identity around for decades. But her "midlife collision" was calling when the boss called her up to their office for a "chat".

Years on, Eleanor is living a very different life, and one that has its start, as some good stories do, in a midlife mushroom trip.

In this conversation, Eleanor talks about the question women are too afraid to ask themselves, empty nests, cold swimming, why her "Noon" women are the world's greatest untapped resource, and how she cured her "addiction to busyness" to rebuild after her midlife collision.

You can find more about that, and Eleanor’s community of Queenagers here.

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CREDITS:

Host: Holly Wainwright

Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Senior Producer: Grace Rouvray

Producer: Tahli Blackman

Audio Producer: Jacob Round

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