Welcome back to the Girls in Property Podcast! In this episode, your host Athena Dobson sits down with Ellen MacDonald — a former teacher turned thriving entrepreneur who’s carved out a successful path in the rent-to-serviced accommodation space - Think Air B n B & Booking.com. If you're listening in, chances are you’re curious about how to break into the rent-to-rent world yourself, or you have a few properties and are looking to scale. 

Together, Athena and Ellen dive into the highs, lows, and everything in between — offering valuable insights for anyone considering making the leap. From setting realistic expectations and nurturing strong relationships to staying focused on the bigger picture, they unpack what it truly takes to grow in this fast-paced industry.

They also get real about the challenges: the trap of chasing shortcuts, why knowing your numbers is non-negotiable, and the common roadblocks when it comes to sourcing deals. Ellen shares her own behind-the-scenes stories with unfiltered honesty, reminding us that success often comes from the lessons learned along the way.

Tune in for a fun, candid, and motivating conversation that shines a light on what it really takes to start strong and stay the course in your property journey.

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In this episode of the Girls in Property podcast, Athena Dobson is joined by Lisa Brown for a deep dive into the world of supported living. Lisa shares her inspiring journey from a career in nursing to becoming a property investor, shedding light on the highs, lows, and life-changing moments of creating safe, supportive homes for vulnerable individuals.

Together, Athena and Lisa unpack what supported living really means—how it differs from assisted living, what property investors need to know, and why getting it right can be both financially sound and socially impactful. They explore key challenges like navigating finance, understanding property valuations, and ensuring homes meet the standards set by providers.

The episode also gets candid about the realities—think property mishaps, tough questions from providers, and the importance of building strong community ties. It’s a real, honest conversation about being an ethical landlord, investing with purpose, and making a genuine difference through property.

Whether you’re just starting out or already on your property journey, this episode will leave you reflecting on your ‘why’ and feeling inspired to approach investing with both heart and strategy.

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In this episode of the Girls in Property podcast, Athena Dobson sits down with Jackie Tomes to talk about staying focused and intentional in your property journey—especially in the early stages, when the temptation of ‘shiny penny syndrome’ can easily throw you off track.

Jackie shares her personal experiences in property investment, including how she navigated distractions, overcame burnout, and learned the importance of aligning her business decisions with her deeper motivations. Together, she and Athena explore the emotional side of property, talking candidly about self-doubt, vulnerability, and the pressure to chase every new opportunity that comes your way.

They reflect on the importance of choosing a clear path, committing to it, and not getting sidetracked by every exciting strategy or trend that pops up. Jackie’s story is a powerful reminder that knowing your ‘why’ and being honest about your strengths and values is what keeps you grounded when the ‘shiny penny syndrome’ starts to creep in.

This episode of my favourites as it is a refreshing look at the balance between ambition and self-compassion, the value of community, and the freedom that comes from focusing on what truly matters in your investment journey.

Connect with Jackie and listen to her own podcast via the link below

Property Lifestyle Mastery Podcast: https://bit.ly/plm-podcast

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In this episode of the Girls in Property podcast, Athena Dobson sits down with the “Property Athlete” Daniel Budden — a former athlete who left the sports world behind to build a thriving business in serviced accommodation. Daniel opens up about his journey into property, sharing how he made the leap, secured his first SA deal, and shaped a winning money mindset along the way.

They dive into the rent-to-rent strategy as a smart starting point for new investors, and why relationships with letting agents and sharp negotiation skills are key. Daniel also shares tips on using Facebook ads to find leads — perfect for anyone balancing property with a full-time job — and explains the importance of having solid contracts in place.

The conversation also touches on the highs and lows of running a serviced accommodation business, from dealing with market saturation to the power of professional presentation. With plenty of practical advice, Daniel highlights how mindset, community, and constant learning make all the difference.

Whether you're just getting started or looking to level up, this episode is packed with energy, insight, and encouragement to help you grow your serviced accommodation journey with confidence.

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In this episode of the Girls in Property podcast, Athena Dobson is joined by Nasar Ahmad for an insightful deep dive into the world of A.I and why it’s such a powerful tool for today’s entrepreneurs.

They kick things off by chatting about the shift from the 9-to-5 grind to the freedom of entrepreneurship—and how AI can make that journey smoother. From automating everyday tasks to creating content that actually connects, Nasar shares how AI can help business owners save time, boost productivity, and stay visible without the overwhelm.

Athena and Nasar also get real about the pressure to show up online, especially for those who aren’t comfortable on camera. They explore how AI can support content creation while still keeping things authentic, and discuss the importance of using tech in a way that stays true to your voice and values.

Storytelling, visibility, and celebrating your wins all take center stage in this conversation. Whether you’re brand new to business or already embracing AI tools, this episode is packed with practical tips and inspiration to help you show up, stand out, and grow with confidence.
Tune in—you won’t want to miss it!

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In this episode of the Girls in Property podcast, Athena Dobson sits down with Jonny Brown, founder of Men in Property, for an open and insightful conversation about mental health, entrepreneurship, and the importance of community within the property industry. Jonny speaks candidly about his personal experiences, including living with ADHD and the challenges he’s faced with mental health, sharing how these struggles inspired him to create a space where men in the sector could feel seen, supported, and understood.

Athena and Jonny delve into the wider conversation around inclusivity, reflecting on how vital it is for both men and women in property to support one another. They explore the motivations behind the Men in Property initiative, the varied responses it has received, and the critical role it plays in encouraging honest dialogue around men’s wellbeing—especially in a traditionally male-dominated environment where vulnerability is often stigmatised.

The episode also looks at the impact of social media on self-image, the pressure it places on professionals, and why having real, meaningful connections within the industry matters now more than ever. Through their discussion, Jonny highlights the value of collaboration, community, and challenging stereotypes, ultimately leaving listeners with a heartfelt message: check in on your mates, be kind, and never underestimate the power of support.

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We’re back after an unforgettable week at the Girls in Property 2025 Retreat—and what a week it was! There’s no better way to get back into the swing of things than with this lively and inspiring episode featuring the fabulous Emma Finn.

You might know her as Oakshill Property on socials, but today, Emma’s sitting down with me to share the real story behind her incredible journey from the classroom to the world of property development. She opens up about what it truly took to leave behind a teaching career and build a successful business from the ground up, including the messy bits, the milestones, and everything in between.

In our chat, Emma speaks candidly about the rollercoaster of renovation projects, the big decisions around financing with cash versus bridging loans, and the key role strong relationships—especially with architects and trusted partners—play in securing deals and driving results.

We also dive into the power of community, particularly for women in the property world. Emma talks about how leaning into that support network has kept her grounded and motivated, even during the tough times. She’s all about building her business at a pace that feels sustainable and true to her—no burnout, just balance.

And just when you think you’ve got her figured out, Emma shares a fascinating look into her new passion: spirituality and human design. She explains how getting to know herself on a deeper level has transformed the way she runs her business and why aligning your strategy with your personal design can lead to greater success and well-being.

This episode is fun, empowering, and packed with wisdom. If you’re standing at a crossroads, wondering whether to take the leap into something new—this conversation is exactly what you need.

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Happy Easter Bank Holiday Monday, everyone! 🐣✨

With the Girls in Property Retreat just around the corner, I thought now would be the perfect time to sit down for a solo episode and catch up with you all. These episodes have become such a special space for me—to slow down, reflect, and connect with you on a more personal level.

In this one, I’m sharing what’s been happening behind the scenes in the lead-up to our big annual event, and opening up about the journey of Girls in Property—how it all began, how far we’ve come, and everything I’ve learned along the way.

Planning something like the retreat definitely isn’t always easy, but every challenge has been so worth it when I see this beautiful community growing and women lifting each other up in the property world.

I also talk about what it really takes to bring these events to life—the power of having a strong, supportive team, and how much personal growth has happened alongside the professional. Plus, I’m giving you a little sneak peek into what’s next: more workshops, more retreats, and even more ways for us to grow, learn, and thrive together.

Thank you so much for being here, for tuning in each week, and for all the love and support you give this podcast. It truly means the world. Let’s keep building something amazing—together. 💪🏽💫

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In this episode of Girls in Property, Athena Dobson sits down with the brilliant Kim from KoMo Properties to explore her inspiring journey into the world of property investment. Kim shares how she got started with her very first deal – a bold move into a multi-unit block – and talks candidly about the lessons she’s learned along the way. From Kim’s, legal know-how and risk management to the real-life challenges of dealing with tenants, Kim opens up about the realities behind the business.

The conversation flows into the importance of education, both formal and through hands-on experience, as well as the huge value of surrounding yourself with the right network. Athena and Kim also touch on the need to pause and celebrate your wins, even while juggling the everyday demands of running a business.

They dive into the complexities of managing HMOs and what the upcoming Renters' Rights Bill could mean for landlords. Kim also shares insights on building a solid brand, why consistently reinvesting in your business matters, and how working with a life partner brings both challenges and rewards. Throughout the episode, there’s a clear message about staying flexible, prepared, and open to growth in an industry that’s always evolving.

Packed with practical advice, honest reflections, and plenty of motivation, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to build or scale their property journey with purpose and confidence.

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In this episode of the Girls in Property podcast, host Athena Dobson chats with the fabulous Julie Talbot—property investor, adventurer, and full-time slow traveler.

Julie takes us on a whirlwind ride from her roots in a housing benefit family to living her dream life, globe-trotting with her family while managing a property business remotely (yes, it’s possible—and she’s doing it!).

From expat life in the Middle East to figuring out how to juggle work, homeschooling, and a suitcase lifestyle, Julie gets real about the highs, the hiccups, and everything in between. She opens up about managing her portfolio from afar, lessons learned from the mistakes that had to happen, and the power of just diving in and figuring it out.

We talk about what travel teaches kids, the magic of finding community on the road, and how freedom and fulfilment can look different for everyone—but it always starts with taking that first leap.

Get ready for a raw, honest, and totally unfiltered convo that’ll leave you feeling fired up, inspired—and maybe even checking flight prices or planning your own big adventure.

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