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Depression is often misunderstood—and overlooked—in older adults. In this deeply moving episode, Mary, a 93-year-old mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother, speaks candidly about aging, loneliness, stigma, and how depression changes the way she sees her life.
Despite being surrounded by family, Mary shares the quiet struggles of late-life depression: losing friends, declining health, and the difficulty of talking about emotions in her generation. Her reflections remind us of the universal human need for connection and presence, no matter our age.
Originally recorded in 2017 and replayed in her memory after her passing, this conversation honors Mary’s courage in sharing her truth. Her words are both heartbreaking and hopeful—showing that talking about depression at any age helps break stigma and builds bridges of understanding.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and remembering Mary
01:10 - Depression in older adults: statistics and concerns
02:28 - Meet Mary: 93 years old, candid about depression
03:10 - Growing up in a generation that dismissed emotions
03:36 - Loss of friends, declining health, and late-life sadness
04:59 - Stigma and self-stigma around mental health in seniors
06:06 - Why older adults see depression as weakness
06:50 - Life in senior housing and struggles with connection
07:57 - Generational silence about emotions and vulnerability
08:25 - Mary reflects on depression taking the “flavor” out of life
08:53 - What older adults need most: presence and consistency
09:54 - Universality of wanting someone to care and show up
10:14 - Habits that support senior mental health
11:21 - Honoring Mary’s courage in speaking openly
12:10 - Closing reflections and transition to next episode
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
So many people living with depression hear the advice: “If you need help, just ask.” But when you’re in the middle of a dark episode, those words can feel vague, overwhelming, or even impossible.
In this powerful conversation, mental health advocate Sam Dylan Finch—a suicide attempt survivor who has lost friends to suicide—shares his 10 practical scripts for asking for help with depression. These aren’t abstract ideas, but real words you can use when you’re struggling and don’t know what to say.
From small requests like asking someone to remind you of your value, to urgent pleas such as, “I’m suicidal. I need help right now,” Sam’s language is compassionate, clear, and potentially lifesaving.
This episode is one you’ll want to save, share, and return to whenever you—or someone you love—feels lost in the darkness of depression.
Link to Sam's article: https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/03/03/10-ways-to-reach-out-when-youre-struggling-with-your-mental-health/
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and why this episode matters
01:07 - The gap between advice to “ask for help” and reality
01:37 - Sam’s personal loss and reflections on not reaching out
02:24 - Why vague advice fails people in crisis
03:17 - What tools and scripts can offer in the moment
04:02 - Script #6: Asking for help with specific tasks
05:22 - How small support requests help both sides
06:04 - Script #7: Asking for affirmations or favorite memories
07:15 - Reminiscing as a healing tool
07:42 - Script #8: “I’m struggling and afraid I’m reaching my limit”
08:41 - Balancing urgency and clarity in crisis requests
09:00 - Script #9: Reaching out to acquaintances when isolated
09:51 - The importance of believing you’re worthy of connection
10:27 - Script #10: Directly saying “I’m suicidal. I need help now.”
11:22 - Why suicide is an emergency like any other
12:16 - Why reaching out is always worth it
12:35 - The importance of staying alive and asking again
13:05 - Reflections on believing you are worthy of support
14:09 - Personal examples of using Sam’s strategies
14:37 - Healing through affirmations and positive reminders
15:12 - Closing messages of hope and connection
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
Being told to “just ask for help” isn’t helpful when you don’t have the words. In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, mental health advocate Sam Dylan Finch shares his first five practical scripts for reaching out when depression makes it hard to speak up.
As a suicide attempt and suicide loss survivor, Sam understands the barriers that keep people from asking for help—and why clear, specific language can save lives. From simply saying “I don’t want to be alone” to asking a friend to check in on you, these tools give you a starting point when words feel impossible.
This episode offers compassionate, real-world guidance that makes asking for help with depression less intimidating and more doable.
Link to Sam's list: https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/03/03/10-ways-to-reach-out-when-youre-struggling-with-your-mental-health/
Link to Sam's blog: letsqueerthingsup.com/tag/mental-health/
Primary Topics Covered
Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction to Giving Voice to Depression
01:02 - Social media posts that inspire peer support
02:29 - Introducing Sam Dylan Finch: writer, advocate, survivor
03:06 - Why Sam wrote “10 Ways to Reach Out When Struggling”
03:54 - Losing a close friend to suicide and lessons learned
04:42 - Why loved ones—not just clinicians—matter in crisis
05:20 - Normalizing the need to ask for help
06:03 - Script #1: “I don’t want to be alone”
07:00 - Script #2: “What I’ve been trying isn’t working—can we make a plan?”
08:46 - Script #3: “I don’t feel safe—can you stay on the phone or come over?”
09:39 - Script #4: “I’m in a bad place, but not ready to talk. Can you distract me?”
11:49 - Script #5: “Can you check in with me (on a specific schedule)?”
13:36 - Why connection and visibility matter in recovery
14:48 - How early check-ins prevent crises from escalating
15:13 - Closing reflections and preview of Part 2
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
What actually helps when you’re deep in depression? After five years and over 300 episodes of Giving Voice to Depression, Terry and Bridget reflect on the most powerful coping tools they’ve learned from guests who’ve lived it.
From journaling and safety plans to laughter, music, and sleep, they revisit the strategies that consistently come up as life-saving—and why no single tool works for everyone, every time. They also reflect on the heartbreaking reality that even with resources and support, families sometimes still lose loved ones to suicide—and how that truth drives their mission.
This heartfelt conversation honors the courage of every guest who shared vulnerably, and the power of story to remind us that while we may sometimes feel alone, we are never truly alone in our struggles with depression.
Primary Topics Covered
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Part 2 of reflections
00:12 - Exploring coping tools learned from guests
00:30 - Journaling and expressive writing as therapy
01:18 - Morning routines and accountability practices
01:54 - Sleep as a key to managing depression
02:20 - Distraction tools: comedy, puzzles, music, and more
03:08 - Creating a comfort box of reminders and supports
03:43 - Safety plans: preparing for moments of crisis
04:46 - Writing affirmations in your own handwriting
05:22 - Why it’s hard to accept compliments when depressed
06:01 - The most impactful guest stories and metaphors
07:34 - The reality of suicide loss despite support
09:01 - Suicidal thoughts and depression: overlapping circles
09:45 - The authenticity of real-time lived experiences
10:19 - Understanding “you’re not alone” differently
11:08 - Choosing solitude vs. the power of shared story
12:16 - Creating distance to process painful experiences
13:22 - A poet’s metaphor: visualizing thousands of listeners
13:56 - Building a global community of connection and hope
15:24 - Reflections on the personal and shared journey
16:33 - Celebrating growth, advocacy, and future contributions
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
After more than 300 episodes and countless powerful interviews, what stands out the most about living with depression? In this reflective conversation, Terry and Bridget share the biggest lessons they’ve learned from five years of cohosting Giving Voice to Depression.
From understanding how depression manifests differently in each person, to seeing the courage it takes for someone to tell their story, this episode offers a heartfelt look at the impact of thousands of conversations. Terry and Bridget also open up about how their personal understanding of depression has deepened, the responsibility of holding others’ stories, and why naming depression can be the first step toward recovery.
This is part one of a special two-part series looking back on five years of learning, growing, and giving voice to depression.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and 311 episodes milestone
00:33 - From statistics to people: why stories matter
02:00 - The honor of holding others’ lived experiences
04:19 - Listener impact: moments of connection and hope
06:26 - Why Terry and Bridget committed to this work
08:21 - Key takeaways about depression from hundreds of interviews
10:25 - How personal experiences shaped their understanding
11:57 - Depression manifests differently for everyone
13:05 - Gratitude and depression can coexist
13:43 - The universal “voice of depression” and its lies
15:05 - Building a depression toolkit through shared stories
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is one of the most effective, evidence-based treatments for depression, anxiety, and other mental health challenges. In this episode, Dr. David Jacobi from Rogers Behavioral Health joins us to explain how CBT works, why it helps people break free from negative cycles, and what small steps we can take to start feeling better.
We explore the CBT triangle—how thoughts, feelings, and behaviors are connected—and why changing your behaviors first can help shift your mindset and emotions. Dr. Jacobi also shares practical strategies like behavioral activation and explains the role of routine, pleasurable, and valued activities in recovery.
If you’ve ever felt stuck in depression’s grip, this episode offers hope, clarity, and actionable tools to support healing.
Primary Topics Covered:
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro to the episode and guest
01:05 What CBT is and how it helps with depression and anxiety
02:12 The CBT triangle: thoughts, feelings, and behaviors
04:16 Why behavior changes matter most for recovery
05:48 Avoidance vs. active coping strategies
07:25 Shifting from helplessness to empowerment through action
08:37 Routine, pleasurable, and valued activities in recovery
10:52 Building motivation by committing to small actions
12:35 The role of support and accountability in CBT
13:11 Avoiding symptom accommodation in loved ones
14:26 Encouraging engagement without enabling depressive behaviors
14:59 Medication as another tool in the recovery toolbox
15:45 Why consistent small steps matter most in healing
16:27 No step is too small: celebrating progress
17:28 Supporting yourself with self-encouragement
18:07 Closing reflections and upcoming announcements
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
Negative thoughts can feel like facts when you live with depression or bipolar disorder. But they aren’t always true—and they don’t have to control your mood or behavior.
In this episode, Patty shares her decades-long journey with bipolar disorder, depression, and suicidal thoughts—and how discovering cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) later in life gave her new tools to challenge destructive thought patterns. Alongside guest co-host Dr. Anita Sands, the conversation explores how learning to question your thoughts can protect your mental health, relationships, and even your life.
Patty’s story is a reminder that it’s never too late to learn skills that can change your future.
Link to article: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/cognitive-behavioral-therapy/about/pac-20384610
Primary Topics Covered:
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and guest co-host Dr. Anita Sands
01:19 - Why it’s hard to keep trying new tools when depression persists
01:47 - Introducing Patty, diagnosed with bipolar disorder at 30
02:20 - Early struggles with symptoms and lack of family support
03:28 - Working in the record industry while masking mood swings
04:48 - Manic highs, depressive lows, and hospitalizations
05:24 - Impact on children and family life
06:34 - Learning more about her illness and building a coping toolbox
07:42 - Medication side effects and long-term stability
08:09 - Early warning signs: sleep disruption and mania
09:18 - Strategies to prevent episodes from escalating
10:39 - Depression’s “black hole” and negative thought patterns
11:20 - Discovering CBT and learning to challenge thoughts
12:45 - Example: spiraling after a canceled lunch
13:48 - Using CBT to reframe thoughts and protect relationships
16:34 - Challenging deep, self-critical thoughts with gratitude and love
17:46 - Why it’s never too late to learn new skills for mental health
19:48 - Bipolar disorder as a circadian rhythm disorder
20:45 - The “big four” for mental health: sleep, nutrition, joyful activity, stress management
22:11 - Wrap-up and preview of next week’s CBT-focused episode
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
Too often, people living with depression are told they’re “weak” or “lacking faith.” These false beliefs not only fuel stigma—they also isolate people from the support they deserve.
In this powerful conversation, Victor Armstrong—a leading mental health advocate—shares how harmful narratives about depression being a moral or spiritual failure have shaped communities, families, and even faith traditions. He explains why the truth is the opposite: those living with depression and suicidal thoughts often show extraordinary resilience and strength.
Through stories, compassion, and lived wisdom, Victor invites us to see the humanity behind the struggle and to respond with understanding, not judgment. His words are paired with reflections from the Giving Voice to Depression team and excerpts from an essay titled The Strength in Depression. Together, they remind us that surviving each day with depression is itself an act of courage.
Primary Topics Covered:
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and welcome
01:08 - Meeting Victor Armstrong through his advocacy work
02:14 - “You matter, your life matters, you are enough”
03:23 - Seeing humanity instead of weakness in mental health struggles
04:01 - Why surviving suicidal thoughts shows strength
04:40 - Shifting perspectives to compassion and love
05:41 - The pandemic’s toll on adults and children
07:25 - Awareness vs. meaningful action in mental health
07:37 - Stigma in families, communities, and faith traditions
08:54 - Growing up without hearing mental health discussed in church
09:57 - Why people with mental health challenges face unique discrimination
10:09 - The added weight of stigma for Black men with depression
11:04 - Why mental health remains taboo compared to other struggles
12:27 - How stigma blames people for their depression
12:32 - Closing reflections and reading from The Strength in Depression
15:43 - Seeing depression as a fight that shows immense strength
16:25 - Accepting depression’s influence while rejecting its lies
16:45 - Closing thanks and preview of next week’s episode
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
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Depression is not a sign of weakness, failure, or a lack of faith. Yet stigma — especially in families, faith communities, and society at large — often frames it that way, leaving those who live with depression feeling judged or dismissed.
In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, mental health advocate Victor Armstrong shares why depression is not a spiritual or moral failing, but a human health condition that requires compassion and support. He and the hosts explore how reframing depression as strength, rather than weakness, can help fight stigma, encourage openness, and validate the lived experiences of millions.
The episode also features excerpts from Lauren Brady’s essay The Strength in Depression, offering powerful reminders that those who live with depression demonstrate resilience every day.
Link to article quoted in episode: https://www.theodysseyonline.com/the-strength-in-depression
Primary Topics Covered:
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction and welcome
01:08 – Introducing guest Victor Armstrong
02:14 – The power of validating messages for those in pain
03:23 – Seeing people for their humanity, not perceived weakness
04:01 – Why labeling depression as weakness is harmful and dangerous
04:40 – Shifting perspectives to see value and compassion in others
05:41 – How the pandemic exposed the fragility of mental wellness
07:25 – Why awareness without action is not enough
08:54 – Discrimination faced by people with mental health challenges
10:09 – Cultural and faith-based stigma in Black communities
11:21 – Why mental health remains taboo compared to other struggles
12:32 – Reflection: how stigma frames depression as weakness
13:03 – Lauren Brady’s essay *The Strength in Depression*
15:13 – Redefining strength in the face of depression
16:25 – Hosts’ reflections on how depression shapes resilience
17:05 – Closing thoughts and community invitation
Explore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.com
Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
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