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In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Dr. David Jacobi of Rogers Behavioral Health explains how Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) works as an evidence-based treatment for depression. Together with hosts Terry and Anita, Dr. Jacobi breaks down the CBT “triangle” of emotions, thoughts, and behaviors, and explains why behavioral activation — doing something different, even small — can help break the cycle of depression.
Listeners will learn how CBT can reduce avoidance, reintroduce pleasure and valued activities, and provide tools to support both self-healing and loved ones. This conversation highlights why no step is too small when moving toward recovery and how we can give ourselves the help we need.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro to the episode
01:25 What is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT)?
02:17 The CBT triangle: emotions, thoughts, and behaviors
03:48 How CBT changes depressive thoughts and behaviors
05:13 Behavioral activation and why doing something matters
06:24 Avoidance patterns and how they maintain depression
07:22 Active coping vs avoidance
08:28 Routine, pleasurable, and valued activities in recovery
10:05 How small actions build momentum out of depression
11:11 Motivation follows action, not the other way around
12:20 The importance of support and accountability
12:57 Symptom accommodation: helping vs enabling
14:13 Encouraging activation while offering empathy
14:42 Medications as another tool in recovery
15:34 Combining CBT, medication, and daily actions
16:14 Why no step is too small in depression recovery
17:24 Supporting yourself with encouragement and patience
17:52 Closing thoughts and takeaways
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Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Dr. Anita Sanz joins Terry and Carly to discuss the importance of seeking therapy as a proactive step for mental health, not just during times of crisis. Together, they break down what therapy actually looks like, why the stigma around it persists, and how people can find the right therapist for their needs. From analogies comparing therapy to car repair and physical therapy, to tackling fears around stigma and suicidal thoughts, this episode provides insight and encouragement for anyone considering therapy.
Listeners will gain clarity on when to seek help, what to expect in sessions, and why proactive therapy can lead to better outcomes.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:26 Why we treat physical health differently than mental health
02:28 What really happens in therapy
03:11 Knowing when it’s time to seek help
04:21 Why therapy works better before things get really bad
05:42 Changing generational attitudes toward therapy
07:26 Stigma and resistance to therapy
09:37 The healthiest people go to therapy
10:34 Using therapy proactively for stressors and grief
11:09 How to choose the right therapist
12:55 Free consultations and therapist shopping
13:53 What to say in your first session
15:16 Asking how a therapist will work with you
15:56 Why honesty with your therapist matters
17:18 How long therapy lasts and knowing when you’re “done”
19:02 Discussing suicidal thoughts with a therapist
21:51 Why therapy requires effort outside of sessions
23:33 Listener question on learned helplessness and negative thought patterns
25:49 Closing
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Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
One caring adult can make the difference between life and death.
In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Chloe shares how her teacher noticed warning signs of her depression and suicidal thoughts — and stepped in to have a direct, lifesaving conversation.
Her story is a powerful reminder that teachers, coaches, and mentors play a critical role in suicide prevention. By noticing changes in behavior, asking hard questions, and showing compassion, educators can literally save lives.
This is not just Chloe’s story — it’s a call to action for all of us to notice, care, and step in.
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Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction
02:01 – “The Boy and the Starfish” story and why one action matters
02:22 – Meet Chloe: six years suicide attempt free
03:20 – Depression starting at age 11 and masking pain
04:21 – Panic attack at age 16 exposes struggles
05:20 – A teacher steps in and notices
06:27 – Believing pain would never end
07:01 – Suicide attempt and unhelpful hospital response
08:33 – Hope returns: seeing the world in color again
09:29 – Second crisis moment: teacher’s direct intervention
10:33 – How one conversation saved her life
11:18 – Asking directly about suicide: why it matters
13:02 – Recognizing others’ silent struggles
14:00 – Walking 220 miles for mental health awareness
14:32 – Moving to the U.S. on a soccer scholarship
15:45 – Becoming a coach: giving back to student athletes
17:24 – Closing reflections: the circle of hope and healing
20:49 – The responsibility of teachers, coaches, and mentors
22:08 – How peers also play a role in noticing warning signs
24:03 – Closing gratitude to educators, mentors, and youth supporters
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
Depression can convince us that healing is impossible. But recovery doesn’t come all at once — it shows up in small, powerful signs of change.
In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Cara McErlain from Belfast shares her lived experience of depression, therapy, and gradual healing. She opens up about the darkest moments of her journey and the hopeful signs that showed her recovery was possible: flashes of joy, moments of connection, and learning to see herself with compassion.
If you’ve ever wondered what recovery from depression looks like, or how to recognize the signs of healing, Cara’s story offers both validation and hope.
Primary Topics Covered
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction
02:00 – Cara’s lived experience with depression
03:08 – Finding euphoric joy after deep depression
04:24 – Sadness vs numbness: what depression really feels like
05:29 – Living with depression since adolescence
06:21 – The silence around mental health while growing up
07:12 – Therapy: validating trauma and reframing her story
09:36 – Naming trauma and its healing power
10:09 – The turning point: reaching out for help
12:01 – Beginning therapy during her lowest point
13:37 – Recovery isn’t linear: ups and downs of the journey
14:45 – Recognizing “flashes of light” as signs of healing
15:47 – Journaling and photography as coping tools
16:38 – Why hearing “it gets better” matters
18:52 – Holding on through the darkest times
20:11 – Reframing small daily moments as recovery
22:38 – Closing reflections: hope after depression
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
Depression doesn’t just impact mood — it can also steal your memories of joy. In this episode, mental health advocate and author Natasha Tracy shares her lived experience with bipolar depression and how it robs her of the ability to recall happy times. She explains the cruel cycle of memory loss and depression, how “state memory” keeps us trapped in negative thought patterns, and practical strategies for holding on to hope even when your brain tells you otherwise.
If you’ve ever wondered why depression makes it feel like you’ve never been happy — and what you can do about it — this conversation offers both understanding and tools for resilience.
Primary Topics Covered
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction
01:14 – Depression’s impact on memory, according to Harvard research
02:13 – Why depression erases happy memories first
02:50 – Guest Natasha Tracy shares her personal story with depression
04:17 – Living with prolonged depressive episodes despite treatment
05:34 – The experience of memory loss during deep depression
06:18 – How depression removes hope by erasing good memories
07:12 – The concept of state memory: remembering only what matches your current mood
08:33 – Depression as a “trickster” that lies to the brain
10:30 – How depression attacks you using your own voice
11:50 – Audience reflections on losing happy memories
12:43 – Creative hacks: asking friends to recall happy memories
13:13 – Building memory boxes and recording video messages to yourself
14:35 – Why your own voice can be the most convincing against depression
15:31 – Two critical strategies for surviving deep depression
17:12 – Hosts reflect on recording messages to their future selves
21:19 – Why this advice is different from standard mental health strategies
24:22 – The isolating filter of depression that blocks gratitude and joy
25:15 – Pop culture parallels: Dementors from Harry Potter and depression
28:46 – Using photos, letters, and reminders as “lifelines” in depression
29:29 – Closing reflections and thanks
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Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
When people talk about maternal mental health, postpartum depression often gets the spotlight. But what about the depression that begins during pregnancy?
In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Isabelle shares her experience with antepartum depression — the deep sadness, hopelessness, and stigma she felt while expecting both of her children. She describes how little people talk about depression during pregnancy, why the shame is so heavy, and how her ongoing recovery looks years later.
With honesty, reflection, and a dose of Buddhist wisdom, Isabelle opens up about coping strategies, managing depression like a chronic condition, and how friends and community support can help lighten the weight. If you or someone you love is struggling with depression during pregnancy, this story reminds you that you are not alone — and healing is possible.
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Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction: Maternal Mental Health Month
01:31 – What is antepartum depression?
02:07 – Isabelle shares her story of depression during pregnancy
02:30 – The stigma of saying “I’m depressed while pregnant”
02:48 – Why maternal depression is rarely discussed
03:32 – Hormones, fear, and the reality of pregnancy
04:13 – Postpartum depression after her first child
04:22 – A different experience during second pregnancy
04:57 – Depression as a managed, chronic condition
05:21 – Coping strategies: therapy, exercise, childcare support
05:33 – How depression distorts reality and emotions
06:10 – Learning to recognize “bad days” as temporary
06:57 – The power of hearing others’ stories
07:46 – Accepting the full spectrum of emotions
07:56 – Buddhist practice: sitting with depression until it passes
08:32 – Writing letters to yourself during good times
09:48 – Giving voice to depression as a way of separating from it
10:22 – How pregnancy reshapes identity and mental health
10:53 – Closing reflections on maternal depression and hope
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Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
Looking for a new mental-health management tool?How about a creative one that "gets the ugly out" while maintaining your privacy?Our guest, Gina Barry, tells us how she modified the practice of writing "morning pages" into a more-private, freeing and effective way to get the darkness, depression and grief out of her head. Gina says giving your feelings a voice helps them not just sit there, on a repetitive loop.In just 19-minutes, you could learn a new technique that could help you manage your depression and other mental-health challenges.https://www.ginabarry.com/https://juliacameronlive.com/basic-tools/morning-pages/https://www.amazon.com/29-Gifts-Month-Giving-Change/dp/0738214302
https://recovery.com/
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What happens when the pain of childhood is never spoken aloud — or validated? For Trina Kennedy, it meant carrying an invisible backpack of heavy rocks: unresolved grief, shame, and loneliness. That burden grew into depression, anxiety, and suicidal thoughts.
In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Trina shares her journey of living with the weight of childhood trauma — and how finding safe spaces, supportive adults, and therapy helped her begin to unpack it. Alongside reflections from hosts Terry and Carly, this conversation explores the difference between stress and trauma, why validation matters so deeply, and how healing is possible through connection and post-traumatic growth.
If you’ve ever wondered about the connection between childhood trauma and depression, or struggled to make sense of unspoken pain, Trina’s story will remind you: you are not alone, and healing is possible.
Link to Trina's website: https://trinaleekennedy.ca/
Primary Topics Covered
Timestamps
00:00 – Introduction and purpose of the podcast
01:12 – Mr. Rogers: “Anything human is mentionable”
01:34 – Trina Kennedy shares her “messy middle” journey
02:36 – How definitions of trauma have shifted
03:45 – Stress vs. trauma: why the distinction matters
04:28 – Trina’s childhood and relational trauma with her father
06:36 – The “backpack of rocks” metaphor for unprocessed pain
08:34 – Accumulated pain leading to depression and suicidal thoughts
09:43 – Hospitalization at 16 after a suicide attempt
10:34 – Finding a life-changing psychologist who provided safe space
12:22 – Healing is messy but growth is possible
12:39 – Post-traumatic growth: learning, growth, and helping others
14:11 – What people most need to hear in their darkest moments
15:33 – Gabor Maté’s “The Myth of Normal” and societal trauma
17:41 – Trauma as a normal response to abnormal conditions
20:21 – Why adults must validate children’s emotions
22:53 – Adults admitting they don’t have the answers — and why it matters
24:26 – How consistent caring adults buffer childhood trauma
26:01 – Somatization: when unspoken pain shows up in the body
27:19 – Resources and closing reflections
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Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
Many people living with depression are told to “get better” for their families, their partners, or their friends. But what happens when you realize you deserve to recover for yourself?
In this powerful episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Ari Cohen shares her lifelong journey with depression, from being diagnosed at age 11 to navigating suicidal thoughts, family loss, and the pressure to heal for others. Through therapy and reflection, Ari discovered a profound truth: true recovery begins when we believe we are worthy of healing for our own sake.
If you’ve ever wondered what recovery from depression really looks like — and how self-worth plays a central role — this conversation offers validation, hope, and practical insights for your own healing journey.
Primary Topics Covered
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction and framing of the episode
01:18 – How depression is often framed in relation to others
02:35 – Ari Cohen’s story begins
03:09 – Early depression diagnosis at age 11
05:12 – Antidepressants, side effects, and first suicidal thoughts
06:24 – Crisis intervention and support from family
08:13 – Starting high school while still depressed
09:19 – Losing a stepbrother to suicide and its impact
09:28 – Making a personal commitment to seek help in crisis
10:11 – Discovering the importance of peer support
11:26 – Trauma-informed outpatient program in late 20s
12:05 – Writing a letter to suicide: realizing its grip on life milestones
12:37 – The key question: Who are you getting better for?
13:08 – Shifting toward healing for self-worth
15:13 – Doing it for yourself doesn’t mean doing it alone
16:34 – Gentle practices: hobbies, self-compassion, journaling
18:25 – Dr. Anita’s reflections on Ari’s message
19:33 – The importance of community and safe spaces
21:07 – Closing thoughts and resources
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Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
Men are less likely than women to seek therapy — but not because they don’t need it. Stigma, cultural expectations, and outdated ideas about masculinity often keep men silent when they’re struggling with depression or grief.
In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, mental health counselor Ethan Getchell shares his personal story of losing his brother to suicide and how it inspired him to change careers and rebrand therapy for men. From using humor and relatable language to creating safe, judgment-free spaces, Ethan shows how new approaches to therapy can help men open up, heal, and save lives.
If you’ve ever wondered why men avoid therapy — and what can be done about it — this candid and hopeful conversation offers fresh insights, practical tools, and reasons to believe change is possible.
Link to Ethan's Hey Man newsletter: https://ethangetchell.substack.com/
Link to "Man Therapy" website: https://mantherapy.org/
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Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction: Carly joins as guest co-host
01:25 – Why men get depressed (Man Therapy excerpt)
02:12 – Why rebranding mental health communication matters
02:44 – Meet Ethan: his story and motivation
03:04 – Losing his brother to suicide and its impact
04:14 – Masculinity, independence, and the “lone cowboy” myth
05:07 – The pandemic and covert depression in men
06:21 – Why men avoid therapy and how to rebrand it
07:06 – CBT and behavioral strategies for men
08:19 – The “Core Four” elements: basics of self-care
10:08 – Two modes of therapy: crisis vs exploration
11:29 – Humor, campaigns, and the power of rebranding
13:17 – Happiness through discomfort, growth, and resilience
14:39 – Listening first: building trust with young men
16:22 – The importance of male therapists as role models
18:02 – Vulnerability vs fear of judgment
19:17 – Core needs and acronyms like HALTS
21:00 – “Hey Man” newsletter: shoulder-to-shoulder conversations
22:40 – Safe spaces, community, and reducing stigma
23:22 – Why more people should embrace therapy without shame
24:32 – Closing thoughts and resources
Explore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.com
Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/
Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/
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