What makes a leader stay grounded? Kelly sat down with Maryland Governor Wes Moore at the Aspen Ideas Festival to talk about power and humility, loss and faith, and the forces that shape who we become. Moore shares stories from his childhood—losing his father at three, finding himself caught between worlds as a teenager, getting sent to military school—and reflects on how those early experiences inform the way he leads today. This conversation explores big questions about fairness and opportunity, asking what we owe each other and how much context matters when we're measuring success.

Books by Governor Moore mentioned in this episode:

The Other Wes Moore: One Name, Two Fates

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-other-wes-moore-wes-moore/1101000890

Five Days: The Fiery Reckoning of an American City

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/five-days-wes-moore/1134703904?ean=9780525512387

Special Thanks to the Aspen Ideas Festival

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