What is privilege? How can we leverage it to proclaim God’s love to the world and create communities that flourish? Dominique DuBois Gilliard, the author of Subversive Witness, talks with Amy Julia about the church and privilege, economic justice, and how to leverage privilege in order to demonstrate the Gospel in innovative and faithful ways.

Show Notes:
Guest Bio: “Dominique DuBois Gilliard is the Director of Racial Righteousness and Reconciliation for the Evangelical Covenant Church. He is the author of Rethinking Incarceration: Advocating for Justice that Restores, which won a 2018 Book of the Year Award for InterVarsity Press and was named Outreach Magazine’s 2019 Social Issues Resource of the Year. Gilliard’s latest book, Subversive Witness: Scripture’s Call to Leverage Privilege was just published by Zondervan. Gilliard also serves as an adjunct professor at North Park Theological Seminary in its School of Restorative Arts and serves on the board of directors for the Christian Community Development Association. In 2015, the Huffington Post named him one of the “Black Christian Leaders Changing the World.”

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On the Podcast:

• Season 3 interview with Dominique (about his book Rethinking Incarceration)
• Books by Dominique: Rethinking Incarceration and Subversive Witness
• Subversive Witness video-based small group curriculum
• Amy Julia’s book about privilege: White Picket Fences
• Scripture: Esther, Lamentations, Isaiah 58:12, Jeremiah 29:6-8, Psalm 139:23-24, John 13:34-35
• Justice deposits
• FREE RESOURCE: Head, Heart, Hands Action Guide

Quotes:
“There’s privilege connected to embodiment, so how our bodies are constructed…race, gender, able-bodiedness, mental cognition…this form of privilege slowly but surely starts to negate the biblical truth that we are equitably made in the image of God. It starts to create this sliding scale of humanity where some lives are respected, protected, and valued over and against others.”

“We have been conditioned, and dare I say discipled, to think about good intentions as more important than the impact of our actions.”

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