Going Off Course

The pool boy is between Carolyn’s legs as she has a great upper body workout with the masters swim. Michelle says Peter’s symbolism instead of Murphy’s Law and promises she’ll try the pool challenge before the next episode (aka seeing how long it takes her to swim 1 mile).

The 3-mile swim went great, and Carolyn is currently gearing up for Santa Cruz in a couple of weeks! But the hip is hipping… hopefully a PT appointment goes her way. Michelle has an idea for her next race and will share more on the next episode…

Long shower people - what are you doing in there?? The cops are back in action, and Carolyn has another ticket to pay… guess what it’s for!

We discuss speed workouts and how to structure speed work from a running coach perspective (aka Michelle) using Amby Burfoot’s methodology. Not all running coaches use this, though, and Michelle mentions the popular Track Club Babe as an example.

Transition glasses are crazzzzzzzzzy. Listen in for a lot of other random topics of the week! 

This episode has a trigger warning as we discuss weight loss and disordered eating. We dive into calorie & macro counting (some would say you have to have a PhD in history to do the latter effectively), running for weight loss, and other taboo topics around weight and running. We also understand why Gen X and Boomers love Michelle Obama’s arms (now that we’re in our 30s).

We start the chat with a discussion on sweating - why is it impossible to shower post-endurance sport??? We touch on Carolyn’s upcoming swim race (3 miles), which she’s doing after her long run on Sunday (Michelle thinks this is insane). 

We then circle back (for the 10th time) to why morning runners are superior, the stress (or lack thereof) of an evening workout, filming while running (race vs. easy pace), why men in their 30s with grey hair are cute, and what we feel the most “us” wearing.

We love this episode and hope you can either relate or feel a part of the discussion!! <3

Michelle’s rocking a Neapolitan tan line, Carolyn’s getting the ick, and we’re back with another episode full of chaotic energy and running chat.

We cover: acid reflux, Gushers (with less gush), silent beach discos, fruit roll-up tattoos, and Carolyn nearly eating the mic. Michelle braves a Garmin speed workout without pausing her watch (!!), and Carolyn suffers through hers under the high noon sun.

Other topics: sun vs. moon run vibes, Mercury not being in Gatorade, Carolyn winning entry to the NYC Marathon, failing to name all the boroughs, and spiraling over Instagram growth, niches, and risqué follower strategies.

Also: sibling cell phone plans and one deeply scarring Hawaiian restaurant moment. It’s a ride.

Carolyn is back from Ohio, and Michelle will be in California when you’re listening to this one!

In this shorter episode, we touch on getting Global Entry, period cramps ruining runs (and people blaming us for insane vibes), and both get a little melancholy.

Running topics include watch tanline identity… could you be the same person without your tanline? Michelle losing hers (sorry... it becoming ombré) has hurt her soul, while Carolyn’s holds strong. We also touch on HRV, swimming for the greater good (insert: potentially saving a dog), humidity vs. altitude... tangents may ensue.

Michelle is heading to a wedding one of the weekends she’s in town. Where does one even find wedding clothes?! We’ll follow up on this one.

At the 10-minute mark, drama unfolds when Carolyn gets a random emergency alert on her phone. Chaos ensues! Before that, Michelle begins a mystery Trader Joe’s unboxing (what did Dav bring back from his travels? You’ll have to watch to find out)...

This episode dives into a style/fashion challenge Michelle is attempting. We then dive back into trail running (is this a trail running podcast?! Hello??) and discuss top running questions. We challenge you to ask yourself these questions as well and reflect on your time as a runner! This brought up some questionable running choices we used to make… Did you wear a running knee band, too? That means you’re at least a millennial or probably a 60-year-old man. 

This episode is a petition for everyone to start liking their own IG posts. Today’s episode covers everything from drones in nature, trail running tips, getting lost with AllTrails, and breaking garbage disposals. Carolyn joins the masters swim team at the Rose Bowl and shares what being a master is all about.

We talk first cars (both equally epic), going to church, eating before runs, listening to Usher on a run, and break into confessions.

The Hoka pipeline is unpreventable! Listen to hear more about how we got there...

For all tents & purposes - it’s a birthday episode! Luckily, Carolyn and Michelle have an appropriate age gap now, so they can continue to be friends. We talk about peaking (in regards to aging and training), the cliché-ness of not feeling older in your 30s, running faster as you age, and how Carolyn decided bingo at a wine bar was the right birthday move (watch out, she’s taking on elders in the church next).We cover traveling drama (trauma, perhaps?), being sore, gas station mishaps, and WHO IS DANIEL ADLER??? Show yourself?! Also, why do 5k races end a tad early sometimes? Straight Strava jail, unless you run through the finish at top speed to hit 3.11 (IYKYK).Chili’s influencing strategy is locked in, and we may be opening a restaurant called the Bear & the Boar (maybe). Watch to see who Carolyn randomly gets a present from mid-episode!

Today we start with learning about cogs (well Carolyn talks about them and also other bike-related things), influencing, and we get the anticipated paragliding recap. 

And then, with a lot of random pivots, including adult spelling bees, ef/marry/kill The Office edition, narcissistic snakes on a run, and running at threshold pace, we dive into the 'What the Helly' questions you gave us!!

These include what we do with old running shoes, the pool bandaid community (jail), using the bathroom during a race, social vs. solo workouts, see-through bibs, and running in the heat.

Shout out to being all in on something when someone matches your exact enthusiasm level. 

Every podcast should start with a wholesome electric scooter wave moment w/ the retirement home community, in our humble opinions.  

We’re talking about everything from the UV index to low iron struggles.

Michelle’s hamstring (or is it a tendon?) is still whispering in her ear (same level as a whisper of marshmallow), and yes, we’re still blaming Botox.  

Carolyn does more cardio than Michelle’s brain can contemplate. We chat about miles ran per week, professionally sleeping, and somehow everything goes back to someone having a PhD.

Carolyn shares insights from her latest blood panel (ferritin, estrogen, inflammation…), and we talk openly about birth control and fainting in a Harley-Davidson.

Plus:

• SD Tri race recap: third out of the water!
• Thoughts on race starts, Olympic tri fueling, and peeing logistics
• Post-race In-N-Out fries (are they superior?)
• Upcoming summer vacations, small pepperonis being elite, and surprise parties are difficult when you can’t lie very well

Carolyn’s been circle swimming with boomers and drinking questionable water from strangers, while Michelle takes a staycation and gets the hardest massage known to man. We cover everything from pee beer (Natty Light, we see you), why bourbon is crazy to enjoy but IPAs slap, and whether you should feel morally obligated to tidy a hotel room before housekeeping.

Other highlights:

• Napa is becoming a seasoned runner
  – Are jorts coming back for men? (Or are they just European?)
  – Gen Z slang, massage pressure preferences, and tipping etiquette
  – The Anthropology conspiracy
  – Pre-race SD triathlon logistics: pro start, transition logistics, the perfect weather, etc.
  – The hydrating 101: running with less water, chugging icks, and do not touch our snacks
  – Tri kits vs running outfits, Eagle Scouts = instant trust, and actors delivering water?? (SAG)
  – Plus: paragliding, candling ears, and being the last generation that signs in cursive.

PURR