Grace Beverley is an entrepreneur, brand founder, influencer, author and Oxford University graduate who joins me on the podcast to talk about her book Working Hard/Hardly Working.

Right now we’re being bombarded by messaging that tells us to always be working and to never be working. You know the kind of messaging that's telling you to 'hustle' one minute then go on a digital detox the next. It's confusing and unhelpful, but this massive contradiction is a good starting point for a wider, and hopefully more helpful discussion, around working hard and hardly working.

In this episode, Grace and I discuss:

• The reductive binary of work/life balance.
• The damage done by the conflicting messages of hustling and working vs resting and relaxing.
• How burnout and over-stretching yourself can be seen as badges of honour in the current framework of what work looks like.
• How the concept of hard work has changed completely in the last few decades making overworking easier than it has ever been before.
• What she learned from a life in corporate and what she does and doesn’t apply from it in her own businesses.
• The way we make work and success look aspirational yet it’s so far removed from reality.
• Why even a job you love can feel like a chore at times (and that’s no bad thing).
• Success and why it’s not a destination but a course that you’re constantly having to course-correct.
• The value in internalising your success.
• How to appropriately delegate and so much more...

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