In this episode of the Green Side Up podcast, Jordan and Jason talk with longtime friend Andrew "Duck Fisherman" Fucarino about his unusual path from family-owned compounding pharmacy to Business Development Manager for Independent Tree Service. Andrew shares how he helped build a niche, cash-pay compounding business (including custom dry eye drops from patients' own blood serum) that was eventually acquired, why burnout pushed him out of healthcare, and how he's now leveraging his Carrollwood network to open doors with HOAs, property managers, and commercial clients. They dig into what real business development looks like in tree care—education, relationships, understanding budgets, and not wasting time on bad-fit work—while mixing in stories about duck hunting, mini-retirement, and reinventing your career in your 40s.

🌱 Prove your skills at the first-ever Landscape Rodeo! Head-to-head challenges like Zero-Turn Barrel Racing and 3-on-3 Backpack Blower Soccer, plus great food and industry camaraderie — all supporting scholarships and training for Florida's green industry. 📍 St. Augustine, FL | 📅 Feb 19–20, 2026 👉 Sign up & learn more: https://thelandscaperodeo.com/

Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

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Podcast Produced by: 🎧 Mr. Producer (@mrproducerusa)

In this episode of the Green Side Up Podcast, Jason and Jordan sit down in person with Danny Gutcher of KASE Wealth Advisors for a deep dive into money, retirement, and long‑term planning—through the relatable lens of Danny's baseball journey. Danny shares his path from Tampa high school standout to Division II national champion catcher at the University of Tampa, then explains how he transitioned from molecular biology and CTE research ambitions into a career as a fiduciary financial advisor. The conversation breaks down, in plain language, topics like fee-based vs. commission-based advising, what a fiduciary really is, Roth vs. traditional IRAs, 401(k)s vs. SIMPLE IRAs, company matches, vesting, HSAs, and tax diversification. Jason and Jordan press Danny on how small businesses like landscape and tree service companies can set up retirement plans, use matches as a retention tool, and structure contributions so both owners and employees win. It's a practical, story-driven guide for young professionals, blue‑collar employees, and business owners who want to stop guessing about retirement and start building a real plan.

🌱 Prove your skills at the first-ever Landscape Rodeo! Head-to-head challenges like Zero-Turn Barrel Racing and 3-on-3 Backpack Blower Soccer, plus great food and industry camaraderie — all supporting scholarships and training for Florida's green industry. 📍 St. Augustine, FL | 📅 Feb 19–20, 2026 👉 Sign up & learn more: https://thelandscaperodeo.com/

Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

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In this episode, Jordan and Jason go behind the scenes of the inaugural Landscape Rodeo in St. Augustine, Florida—fresh off the front page of Lawn & Landscape with Yankee Dan doing a wheelie on a Hustler zero-turn. They break down Media Day, key events like zero-turn barrel racing, skid steer challenges, mini-excavator skills, and the evolving three-on-three backpack blower soccer, plus how to register at thelandscaperodeo.com, event pricing, the $1,000 Landscape Decathlon prize, custom belt buckles, and lodging at World Golf Village Renaissance St. Augustine. They also dig into plant health care with MitoGrow booster applications, air spading and root invigoration, and wrap with how they're using LiveSwitch and AI to capture video walkthroughs, speed up proposals, and better communicate with clients and crews.

🌱 Prove your skills at the first-ever Landscape Rodeo! Head-to-head challenges like Zero-Turn Barrel Racing and 3-on-3 Backpack Blower Soccer, plus great food and industry camaraderie — all supporting scholarships and training for Florida's green industry. 📍 St. Augustine, FL | 📅 Feb 19–20, 2026 👉 Sign up & learn more: https://thelandscaperodeo.com/

Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

Visit Our Businesses: 🌿 SkyFrog Landscape 🌳 Independent Tree Service

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Podcast Produced by: 🎧 Mr. Producer (@mrproducerusa)

Jordan and Jason link up in Tampa to recap a big week in the Green Industry. They share details on the upcoming Landscape Rodeo and Media Day at Ancient City Farmstead in St. Augustine, then break down what they learned at Tony Bass's Profit Builder seminar in Atlanta. From labor burden and overhead recovery to real equipment costs, sales goals, and culling unprofitable accounts, they explain how knowing your numbers changes everything for lawn, landscape, and tree service businesses. They also touch on branding, uniforms, and using video and tools like LiveSwitch to streamline sales and client communication.

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🌱 Prove your skills at the first-ever Landscape Rodeo! Head-to-head challenges like Zero-Turn Barrel Racing and 3-on-3 Backpack Blower Soccer, plus great food and industry camaraderie — all supporting scholarships and training for Florida's green industry. 📍 St. Augustine, FL | 📅 Feb 19–20, 2026 👉 Sign up & learn more: https://thelandscaperodeo.com/

Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

Visit Our Businesses: 🌿 SkyFrog Landscape 🌳 Independent Tree Service

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Podcast Produced by: 🎧 Mr. Producer (@mrproducerusa)

In this episode of Green Side Up, hosts Jordan and Jason sit down in Louisville with Mark Sedgley, CEO of Granum (the merger of LMN, SingleOps, and Greenius), to unpack his unconventional path from teaching English in Poland to leading a major software platform for the green industry. Mark shares how he fell in love with small business, what getting fired taught him about leadership, and how he used sales and acquisitions to scale multiple software companies. He explains why he combined SingleOps, LMN, and Greenius, the key differences between tree care and landscape markets, and how owners should think about expansion, delegation, and core values. Packed with real stories and practical takeaways, this episode is a must‑listen for Green industry entrepreneurs thinking about growth and their next chapter.

🌱 Prove your skills at the first-ever Landscape Rodeo! Head-to-head challenges like Zero-Turn Barrel Racing and 3-on-3 Backpack Blower Soccer, plus great food and industry camaraderie — all supporting scholarships and training for Florida's green industry. 📍 St. Augustine, FL | 📅 Feb 19–20, 2026 👉 Sign up & learn more: https://thelandscaperodeo.com/

Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

Visit Our Businesses: 🌿 SkyFrog Landscape 🌳 Independent Tree Service

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Podcast Produced by: 🎧 Mr. Producer (@mrproducerusa)

In this episode of Green Side Up, Jason and Jordan sit down with Ryan Hudson, General Manager of Baker Commercial Landscaping – Tampa, for a candid, funny look at what it really takes to run a serious commercial landscape operation. Ryan shares his journey from mowing for his dad's company Bushmaster Landscape Maintenance as a kid, to grinding through a 10‑year business degree, to managing an 80-person Tampa branch within a 300-employee, two-branch company. They break down how Baker structures its teams (from crews to ops managers to department heads and the GM), the constant tension between sales and production, and how Ryan often plays "cut man" between Trey Rolquin's big sales vision and the operations crews. The conversation hits on Baker's work in Tampa's Water Street district—rooftop landscapes, tricky access, parking tickets, right-of-way drama, and slow-paying big clients—plus the real economics of palm tree trimming and why it often serves as a loss leader to win better work. Ryan also explains how relationship-driven networking (BOMA, CAI, etc.) and a diversified mix of offices, HOAs, condos, shopping centers, and hotels helped them survive COVID. Mixed in are plenty of stories—from trimming at a nudist resort to 3 a.m. bucket-truck work downtown. If you're in landscaping or tree work and want real-world insight on scaling commercial maintenance without racing to the bottom, this one's for you.

🌱 Prove your skills at the first-ever Landscape Rodeo! Head-to-head challenges like Zero-Turn Barrel Racing and 3-on-3 Backpack Blower Soccer, plus great food and industry camaraderie — all supporting scholarships and training for Florida's green industry. 📍 St. Augustine, FL | 📅 Feb 19–20, 2026 👉 Sign up & learn more: https://thelandscaperodeo.com/

Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

Visit Our Businesses: 🌿 SkyFrog Landscape 🌳 Independent Tree Service

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Podcast Produced by: 🎧 Mr. Producer (@mrproducerusa)

In this Christmas episode of Green Side Up, Jason and Jordan mix holiday banter with a candid year-end business recap. They talk about family trips, zero-turn barrel racing, raccoons in dumpsters, and then get real about 2025: slowdowns, layoffs, experiments with marketing, LiveSwitch video estimates, and dialing in plant health care. The core of the conversation is sales—close rates, how much money they're leaving on the table, splitting sales from operations, and why 2026 will be all about sales training and written processes. It's an honest look at how messy, painful, and rewarding entrepreneurship really is—and how they plan to level up their landscape and tree service businesses in 2026.

Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

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Podcast Produced by: 🎧 Mr. Producer (@mrproducerusa)

In this episode of the Green Side Up Podcast, Jason calls in from the SkyFrog shop kitchen while cooking a 10‑gallon pot of jambalaya for the year‑end party, and Jordan shares how his team has tightened up operations with a four‑day workweek and a cleaner, better-organized shop. They talk about SkyFrog's employee skills challenge—mower races, weed eater and edger contests, and this year's backpack blower soccer—and how it boosts culture and retention. Jordan breaks down how he's using LiveSwitch and AI to turn quick video walkthroughs into written job scopes, crew orientation, and even palm fertilizer estimates, while Jason recaps turf results with MitoGrow, plans for new field trials, updates on the Landscape Rodeo date shift, and an upcoming MitoGrow video project. It's a tactical, real‑world look at using tech, culture, and systems to level up a green‑industry business.

Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

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Podcast Produced by: 🎧 Mr. Producer (@mrproducerusa)

In this episode of Green Side Up, Jordan and Jason sit down with Scott from the Million Dollar Landscaper podcast to talk about why so many landscape and tree service companies stay busy but barely profit. Scott shares his journey from working in his dad's landscape company in Northwest Indiana to becoming Vice President, realizing the business wasn't making money, and then diving deep into budgeting, overhead, and job costing. He breaks down the differences between SORS, DORS, and MORS overhead recovery systems, explains how to find your true break-even on every job, and shows why "2x material" pricing is the lazy way that often leads to losses. Scott also discusses leaving the family business, becoming a firefighter, and now helping contractors build profitable companies through his Million Dollar Landscaper coaching and podcast.

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Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

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Podcast Produced by: 🎧 Mr. Producer (@mrproducerusa)

Get behind the scenes at Equip Expo with this lively episode recorded in the Super Lawn Truck Studios! Mike and Chad, from Not Our Finest Hour Podcast, join the crew to share stories about growing their landscaping businesses, managing teams, and handling unique challenges like workplace vices, taxes, and HOAs. Dive into real-world discussion on hardscaping, new tech like AI estimating tools, and the power of podcasting for industry networking. Full of industry insights, laughs, and authentic advice for business owners—tune in for a fun and honest conversation among landscaping pros.

Connect with Jason and Jordan: 🌐 Green Side Up Podcast Website 📧 Email: [email protected] 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up 📸 @greensideuppodcast on Instagram 📸 @skyfroglandscape on Instagram

Visit Our Businesses: 🌿 SkyFrog Landscape 🌳 Independent Tree Service

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Podcast Produced by: 🎧 Mr. Producer (@mrproducerusa)