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Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.

In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes sit down with Harry Subertas, the reigning champion of the Cocodona 250. They discuss Harry's incredible performance last year, the challenges he faced, and his strategies for the upcoming race. Harry shares insights on the importance of community support, course knowledge, and personal motivation in ultra running. The conversation also touches on the evolution of the Cocodona race and Harry's favorite gear for the event.