It has been 10 years since the Paris Agreements of 2015 and – despite the initial enthusiasm – global investment in fossil fuels has increased and we seem to be on course to overshoot the limit of 1.5 degrees warming. Why is this happening? In this episode Licia Cianetti talks with Wim Carton about his book (co-authored with Andreas Malm) Overshoot: How the World Surrendered to Climate Breakdown (Verso 2024), which provides some of the answers. In this conversation, we bust a few myths: that we are gradually (if slowly) moving in the right direction, that climate denialism is the only obstacle to change, that we are at the cusp of a green capitalist revolution, and that carbon capture technologies will save the day. We also try to imagine a way forward.

Wim Carton is a Senior Lecturer at Lund University’s Centre for Sustainability Studies.

Licia Cianetti is Lecturer in Political Science and International Studies at the University of Birmingham and Deputy Founding Director of CEDAR.

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