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What Moved in the Room
In this episode of Healing My Parts, we sit down with Fawnn Bryant—a plural system living with OSDD—who shares their transformative journey with EMDR therapy.
Fawnn’s story begins with the search for safety: leaving an unsafe marriage, creating a home where all parts could finally exhale, and finding a therapist who truly saw them. That safety opened the door to a flood of memories, the sudden emergence of Littles and the raw reality of disorganized attachment.
Together, we explore the chaos of early system discovery, the rupture-and-repair cycle in therapy, and how EMDR became a lifeline—tailored to honor each part. Over three years, Fawnn’s world shifted from constant crisis to cautious hope. As they put it, the progress is “only half-magical,” but even that marks a profound move from drowning to beginning to breathe again.
This conversation is both tender and practical, offering validation for systems and insight for clinicians: healing is slow, nonlinear, and messy—but movement and connection are always possible.
Moments That Moved Us
* System Discovery & Safety (00:01:00–00:04:00)Leaving an unsafe relationship, creating a safe home, and the moment a gatekeeper stepped back—ushering in younger parts and sudden system awareness.
* Attachment Wounds & Therapy Ruptures (00:04:30–00:07:00)The turmoil of disorganized attachment and the uphill work of rebuilding relational safety.
* The Role of EMDR (00:08:20–00:13:00)Why EMDR was a game-changer for a blendy, often non-verbal system—and how one therapist adapted sessions to meet every voice.
* Three Years In: Half-Magical Progress (00:18:00–00:22:00)From 30 simultaneous crises to one topic at a time—journaling, trust-building, and authentic connection.
* Statistics & Soapbox (00:27:00–00:31:00)Eye-opening numbers: 12% of the population is dissociative, 48% live with insecure attachment—underscoring the need for trauma-informed training.
* Consent & Modality Fit (00:44:00–00:47:00)Why systems must advocate for themselves, why CBT often falls short, and why true healing requires consent and pacing.
* Emerging Into Connection (00:39:00–00:42:00)From derealization as an infant survival strategy to building real friendships in adulthood for the first time.
Did This Move You,Too?
If you’re part of a system considering EMDR — or a clinician wanting to better support dissociative clients — this episode brings both reality checks and grounded hope. Healing rarely unfolds in straight lines, but Fawnn’s story shows how safety, connection, and relational repair can crack open a truer sense of your system — and create space for more of your selves to be seen and supported.
What moved you(s)?
Resources:
Healing Together Conference Annual gathering centering lived experience and professional support for dissociative systems.
Dissociative Writers A growing network of writers with lived experience navigating OSDD/DID and complex trauma.
Hearts Multiplied – A community for systems, offering support, connection, and collective healing.
Peer Support for Multiples -Jade Miller – Peer coach and system advocate known for her accessible resources on system navigation and inner safety.
Crisses – Longstanding voices in the dissociative community offering tools, classes, and foundational education for systems and supporters.
Healing My Parts on Instagram – @healingmyparts — soft, sometimes sassy system-affirming content, tools, and connection.
Healing My Parts on Substack – Weekly blogs, downloadables, insights and tools by a therapist with living with DID.
Healing My Parts Website – Consultations for both professionals & systems, workshops, support groups, merch, and more.
Join us for a rich, unfiltered conversation with Katie Keech, LMFT—queer, neurodivergent, and plural therapist—on what system-affirming care really means. From the politics of difference to the power of parts, this one goes deep.
In this episode of Healing My Parts, we sit down with therapist Katie Keech, LMFT (they/them), a queer, neurodivergent, and plural clinician whose presence is nothing short of magnetic. Together, we unpack what system-affirming care actually looks like—from bodyminds to backlash, trauma to truth—and why embracing difference is a deeply political and healing act.
Whether you're a system, supporter, or a clinician walking with us, this conversation is an invitation to rethink what safety, dignity, and authenticity can look like in the therapy room and beyond.
⏱️ Timestamps
* 00:00 – Welcome & Guest Intro
* Meet Katie: plural, queer, neurodivergent therapist + advocate
* 02:00 – Beyond the Binary: Neurocomplexity and Bodymind
* Katie shares how intersections of neurodivergence shape identity
* 05:00 – System-Affirming vs Singlet-Performing
* Why masking and blending aren’t signs of healing
* 07:00 – The Politics of Difference
* From eugenics to neurocosmopolitanism: why sameness is a control tactic
* 10:30 – Scared of Consciousness?
* The real reason people resist DID visibility
* 12:30 – Are Parts Inherently Good?
* Nuance around “evil,” groomed systems, and complexity
* 14:00 – Misunderstood Parts & Therapist Misattunement
* Why teen parts and risky behaviors are often mislabeled
* 17:00 – Projection in the Therapy Room
* Countertransference, burnout, and why “resistance” is a therapist’s issue
* 20:00 – When DID Isn’t Believed (or Treated)
* Katie + Monika share personal and client stories of invalidation
* 23:00 – Fusion vs Choice
* Performing healing to appease therapists vs honoring internal truth
* 26:00 – What Burnout Really Looks Like
* Autistic & system burnout as nervous system overwhelm—not depression
* 31:00 – Plural Friendship & “Too Much”
* What people get wrong about being friends with systems
* 36:00 – Disclosure, Safety & Groomed Systems
* Navigating who to tell, how to protect young parts, and relational risks
* 41:00 – Endogenous vs Traumagenic
* Why the binary may be a false split—and why it matters less than you think
* 46:00 – Cultural Models of Plurality
* A look at colonialist roots of the DSM and erasure of plural worldviews
* 50:00 – The Neurodivergence Web
* Autism, DID, ADHD, daydreaming, and the brilliance of the brain
* 56:00 – Shame, Fixing, and System Flattening
* ABA, conversion therapy, and the violence of “normalizing”
* 1:01:00 – Creating Plural-Friendly Worlds
* Why we need spaces where we can drop the mask, and just be
* 1:04:00 – Final Reflections from Katie
* A tree that splits from lightning isn’t broken—it’s adapting. So are we.
Connect with Katie!
Website: katiekeech.com
Instagram: @katiekmft
TikTok: Neuroqueer Therapist
X: @keechmft
In this episode, we sit down with the incredible System of Gardens and Flowers—a French polyfragmented system of over 900 parts and a RAMCOA survivor—to explore what it really means to live, work, and heal while navigating complex dissociation and programming.
Together, we explore:
* How they discovered they were a system and began mapping 900+ parts (00:02:03)
* The difference between “parts” and “fragments”—and how they manage internal communication (00:04:10)
* What it’s like to be out at work as legal counsel while managing internal dynamics (00:16:00)
* How programming shows up in everyday life (and what helps dismantle it) (00:23:00)
* The real-life emotional toll of navigating therapy, memory loss, grief, and trauma (00:24:00)
* Why love, compassion, and community are lifelines in recovery (00:40:00)
This is a deeply human, unflinchingly honest, and profoundly hopeful conversation. Whether you're a provider, a survivor, or a fellow system, we hope you'll feel seen here.
Content Warnings: This episode includes references to trauma, RAMCOA, programming, and grief. Please listen with care and take what you need.
Resources Mentioned:
* Hearts Multiplied Forum
* Couple of Multiples Podcast
* Follow System of Gardens and Flowers on Instagram: @systemofgardensandflowers
* Follow Healing My Parts on Instagram
@healingmyparts
* Visit our website for more resources
healingmyparts.org
What happens when eating disorders and dissociative disorders meet?
In this deeply human conversation with Annie Goldsmith, RD, LDN, we explore how food, body, and trauma are wired together—and what healing can look like when care is somatic, polyvagal‑informed, and truly system‑aware.
✨ Whether you’re a system, a clinician, or someone navigating mealtimes in a nervous system that’s been through a lot—this episode is for you.
💬 We talk about:▫️ Why eating disorder care so often misses dissociation (07:00)▫️ How parts experience food differently (yes—some don’t have a body) (22:00)▫️ What it means to build safety before behavior change (57:00)▫️ Intuitive eating in systems—does it work? (44:26)▫️ Health at Every Size in the context of systems (48:50)▫️ Why healing isn’t one size fits all (1:02:45)
🎧 Listen now: 💌 Let us know your thoughts—drop a comment or DM. We’d love to hear what resonates.
🖤 No parts left behind. Always.
👉 Annie’s Practice: Second Breakfast Nutrition
#DID #OSDD #EatingDisorderRecovery #PolyvagalTheory #SomaticHealing #TraumaInformedCare #HAES #IntuitiveEating #HealingMyParts
If you’ve ever felt like the system wasn’t built for you… you’re not wrong.
In this episode, we’re joined by Anne and Lexi from Beauty After Bruises, a nonprofit that’s reshaping how survivors of complex trauma and dissociative identity disorder (DID) are supported when the traditional paths don’t—or won’t—show up.
We talk about what real care looks like when you’ve been through layers of harm. Whether you're a system trying to navigate healing, someone who loves a system and wants to understand, or a provider trying to get it right, this conversation offers practical insights, grounded validation, and real-world examples of what’s possible when advocacy is trauma-informed and action-oriented.
🎧 In This Episode:
* (00:49) The origin story: how Beauty After Bruises started with heartbreak and turned into healing
* (03:00) Lexi shares her experience as a system—and how it shaped their mission
* (12:30) Therapy boxes: what they are, who they help, and why they matter
* (20:20) “Trauma-informed” isn’t the gold standard—it’s the baseline
* (27:40) Why some therapists feel overwhelmed—and what systems need instead
* (33:15) When there’s nowhere to refer: facing the care gap
* (42:10) Designing support with survivors, not just for them
* (50:05) The myth of perfection: why it’s okay to show up imperfectly
* (56:30) Clinician burnout and the emotional toll of this work
* (1:02:00) What collaborative, client-centered care actually looks like
* (1:07:00) A reminder: healing happens when we’re not doing it alone
👥 About Our Guests – Beauty After BruisesFounded by Anne and Lexi, Beauty After Bruises is a nonprofit offering practical support, crisis intervention, and community care for people living with DID and complex PTSD. With a mix of professional insight and lived experience, they meet survivors where they are—whether that’s on a waitlist, in the middle of a breakdown, or just trying to survive another day.
🌐 beautyafterbruises.org📸 @beautyafterbruises💌 Support their work, apply for aid, or explore their survivor + provider resources.
📚 Resources Mentioned:
* Therapy Box Program
* Survivor Blog + Education Hub
* ISSTD (International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation)
✨ Loved this episode?Subscribe, leave a review, or share it with someone who wants to support a system better, or is part of one.For more system-affirming tools, grounded education, and lived experience stories, join our newsletter on Substack.
We are so excited to welcome back the Gianu System for one of our most insightful (and joy-filled!) conversations yet. In this episode, we talk about what healing looks like across time, modalities, and parts — and what it meant for the Gianu System to experience a fusion.
Together, we explore the winding, non-linear nature of trauma recovery — and how systems like ours navigate therapeutic work that meets all of us where we are.
We explore the complexities of being a system in trauma therapy: trying different modalities, navigating misattunements, and learning to getting alters communicating. We talk candidly about what it’s like when therapy doesn’t work — and what happened when they finally found something that did.
You’ll hear about the modalities they explored, including:
* 🧠 CBT (and why it didn’t land)
* 💬 IFS (what helped and what felt misaligned)
* ⚡ EMDR (how it helped — and what was hard)
* 🌀 Deep Brain Reorienting — the approach that finally changed everything
We dive into:
* Why screening tools like the DES and MID should be given more than once (because who’s fronting matters!)
* How missing a DID diagnosis can derail trauma work
* The power of self-compassion, communication, and humor in the healing process
* What fusion really is (and what it’s not)
Whether you're a therapist, a supporter, or part of a system yourself, this episode offers nuance, hope, clarity, connection, and so many "oh wow" moments.
🔁 With all the lightbulb moments and deep valiation, this is one you’ll want to come back to again and again.
Resources Mentioned:
* Deep Brain Reorienting (DBR)
* DES II
* MID Assessment
* Gianu System on Instagram
* Gianu System on TikTok
* Gianu System Navigating DID & Relationships (with their Hubs!)
Let’s Stay Connected:Follow us on IG at @healingmypartsSubscribe to our newsletter/blog at healingmyparts.substack.com
Kathy Broady is BACK with Part 2 of our incredible discussion about her powerful work at Discussing Dissociation!
In this episode, we dive deeper into:
* What the forums are like
* What happens during retreats
* What small group intensives are all about
Kathy shares how people can make rapid progress in understanding their system by participating in group work with other systems. There's something deeply healing about sharing space with others who have similar experiences.
This episode is full of valuable insights for both systems and providers, offering new perspectives on the healing journey and what certain parts might need along the way.
🎧 Tune in now and don’t miss out on this wisdom-packed conversation!
And be sure to check out Kathy’s amazing resources at www.discussingdissociation.com
Let’s keep learning, growing, and healing together! 💜✨
This is PART ONE of an incredible conversation with Kathy Broady, MSW, the powerhouse behind Discussing Dissociation.
Kathy’s deep knowledge and strength-focused approach bring validation and clarity for those navigating life as a system—and powerful insights for providers who work with them, too.
Here’s a taste of what we dive into:
* Building relationships with parts
* Amnesia and how it shows up in DID
* Switches and how to notice them
* The goal of communication with parts
* The deeply meaningful relationships within systems
Kathy makes complex topics approachable, all while delivering so much heart. 💙
We had so much to talk about, this conversation needed TWO parts! 🙌 Part 2 drops next week, but for now, don’t sleep on Part One.
LISTEN IN NOW. And check out Kathy’s work at
www.discussingdissociation.com
Other Specified Dissociative Disorder 1a & 1b are very similar to DID. Prompted by an OSDD1b system reaching out to share that they initially did not think that they would find a podcast dedicated to DID to be helpful to them. They shared that they were surprised to find that not only was it helpful, but they found many similarities in what they experience reflected here. It made us all wonder how many other people living with OSDD might feel the same…and how many folks with OSDD might be seeking reflections of their experiences and haven’t fully found it in the DID literature and shared stories in online spaces and haven’t yet found it. In this episode we are joined by an OSDD1a and an OSDD1b system, who both generously share parts of their journey of system discovery and healing.
Resources
An Infinite Mind
The Rings System YouTube Channel
General OSDD info
Carolyn Spring on OSDD & DID
Beauty After Bruises on Dissociative Disorders
Power to The Plurals on OSDD
Podcast Legal Disclaimer
The information provided in this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to be a substitute for professional mental health advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listening to this podcast does not establish a therapist-client relationship between the listener and the host. Always seek the guidance of a qualified mental health professional with any questions you may have regarding your mental health or medical condition. If you are in crisis or in need of immediate support, please contact a licensed mental health provider or emergency services in your area.
This episode brings a light hearted view to the challenges and adventures of daily system life. From discovering their system to the evolving ways of “what works for them,” this conversation will inspire, validate and intrigue you. The Curious System offers a wealth of resources for DID and OSDD systems and their providers to explore.
Resources referenced in this podcast episode:
The Crisses
PluralKit
Otter ai
DID We Write
DID We Write Tildy's Little Book for Littles
The Rabbit Listened book
The Rabbit Listened read aloud
CTAD Clinic
CTAD Clinic YouTube Channel
Layering of Emotion CTAD Clinic Video
Growing Up Again Book
Alix Amar LCSW
Amy Wagner LMFT, LMHC
Petals of a Rose Documentary
Healing Together Conference
An Infinite Mind
An Infinite Mind Speaker Series
Yes Please by Amy Poehler
Dissociation Made Simple by Dr. Jamie Marich
Institute for Creative Mindfulness
Podcast Legal Disclaimer
The information provided in this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to be a substitute for professional mental health advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listening to this podcast does not establish a therapist-client relationship between the listener and the host. Always seek the guidance of a qualified mental health professional with any questions you may have regarding your mental health or medical condition. If you are in crisis or in need of immediate support, please contact a licensed mental health provider or emergency services in your area.
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