History doesn’t repeat—but it sure does rhyme.

In this episode, Rich sits down with Michael Zuber, veteran investor and host of One Rental at a Time, to break down why today’s market looks a lot like the 1980s—and what that means for the next decade of real estate. From transaction crashes and affordability issues to interest rate cycles and syndication blowups, Zuber explains how to position yourself now to ride the wave.

They cover:

• Why the 40/40/40 “go to school, get a job” model was always broken
• How today’s transaction slowdown mirrors the late 70s and early 80s
• The #1 indicator that told Zuber to sell his houses in 2006 before the crash
• Why daily discipline beats motivation—and the 5-year rule every investor should know
• How to build wealth even when the headlines are screaming doom

If you want to understand where the market’s headed—and how to play offense when everyone else is scared—this is the blueprint.

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