In this episode, Andrew is joined by writer and editor Halley Kim to explore the profound intersection of theology, patriarchy, and personal agency. As a former pastor’s wife within conservative Evangelicalism, Halley shares her journey of moving beyond simple theological deconstruction to dismantle the power structures that once defined her life and marriage. Together, they discuss the dehumanizing effects of purity culture and the "anti-knowing" messages that discourage women from trusting their own intuition. Halley offers a unique perspective on the professional and personal costs of questioning the status quo while navigating the slow, redemptive process of building a marriage rooted in mutual power rather than hierarchy.

Beyond her history in the church, Halley brings her extensive background in maternal healthcare as a registered nurse and doula to the conversation, drawing striking parallels between the midwifery model of care and liberation theology. She reflects on the transformative experience of finally preaching from a pulpit once forbidden to her and discusses her ongoing research into how our internal God images—whether authoritarian or benevolent—shape our real-world behavior. This conversation is a deep dive into reclaiming one's voice, the nuances of raising children with theological plurality, and the messy, beautiful work of healing after years of institutional silence.

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Guest Info: 

Website: https://halleykim.com/

Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/maybegodisamidwife/

• https://www.instagram.com/maybegodisamidwife/
• https://substack.com/@maybegodisamidwife
• https://www.halleykim.com
• Recent article for Feminism and Religion: https://feminismandreligion.com/2025/10/26/god-is-a-midwife-by-halley-kim/#more-72948
• My website and portfolio, including my writing, editing, sermons, and podcast interviews: https://halleykim.com/portfolio/
• My freelance editing business, Jigsaw Editing: https://halleykim.com/services/
• My instagram and Substack @maybegodisamidwife

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