You ever wonder what's going on with the personal finances of entrepreneurs?

Like are they all just born wealthy?

How are they taking these risks and making these investments to grow these businesses?

My guest today is going to tell you how in a one year period she was able to clear $25,000 of credit card debt and save $55,000 for a house. She's gonna really get into the nitty gritty of it.

And no, she didn't grow up wealthy.

Meet Podge Thomas, a Notion Consultant and People Ops Specialist. She works with small business owners to build operational infrastructure through the lens of liberation and justice.

One of the businesses she has helped a ton is Rebel Therapist and I am proud to call Podge a friend.

Here's some of what we talked about:

• Podge's history of spending money as soon as she had it
• Identifying the ways she was getting in the way of her goals
• Finding a path forward financially with her wife
• Investing in working with a financial coach
• Growing up without money
• Unhooking her ability to spend money from her sense of worthiness
• The step by step plan Podge used to change her finances
• Using "envelope saving" to plan and track her finances
• How her new frugal mindset impacts her business
• How she decides what to invest her business dollars on
• How she and her wife chose a fixer upper and are fixing it up with their own 4 hands.

Show notes at https://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/201