In this episode of Untidy, Alice Soper is back behind the mic with Hannah, stepping in as co-host once more while Matilda continues to handle the jandal.

Alice and Hannah get into Alice’s journey toward motherhood in a queer partnership. From wanting to be a mum, tweaking her fiancee’s algorithm, finding sperm donors, considering whakapapa, and choosing to step outside the medical system; Alice takes us on her queer journey towards motherhood. 

Alice opens up about the big conversations with her partner, the moment she knew she wanted to carry, and how they’re hoping to build their whanau with love, intention, and community.

The girls take a detour into Alice’s elaborate proposal, a history lesson on the rebellion of women’s rugby, and a solid rant about gender politics in sport.

Links from the episode:

• Open Play by Sheree Bekker & Steve Mumford
• Full Credit podcast with Alice Soper and Les Elder
• Where to watch: Girls Can’t Surf – Documentary
• My Big Moments – Kids’ books (Use code UNTIDY for 10% off)

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