In this episode of the HR Leaders Podcast, we sit down with Michael Fraccaro, Former Chief People Officer at Mastercard, to discuss the future of HR leadership, succession planning, and the balance between formal and moral leadership.

Michael shares lessons from his nine-year tenure, including CEO succession, scaling culture globally, and building high-performing teams by empowering others.

🎓 In this episode, Michael discusses:

1. Balancing formal authority with moral leadership
2. Leading CEO succession and the power of planning ahead
3. How to empower teams and avoid becoming the bottleneck
4. Why vulnerability and "quiet power" are essential leadership traits
5. The evolving role of CHROs in navigating complexity and disruption

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