Hopefully Paul will be all better and back next week, but in the mean time Rob's in beautiful Hyde Park with brilliant Ivo Graham, talking about anything and everything. Featuring 'if in doubt, go out', Machynlleth memories, Egyptian Goslings, top-end trainers, Rob's runs in retrospect - and his Albert Hall gigs - scary dogs, Ivo not-quite running the London Marathon with his brother - and channelling Paul - licking frogs, being poetically disorganised, Gig Pigs and other music talk, the Graham family run, and, time-permitting, Taskmaster.

Thanks so much to Ivo; PAUL TONKINSON WILL RETURN.

Thanks to you all, for everything, as always. Happy running and take care out there.

You can hear Ivo and Alex Kealy's podcast Gig Pigs here: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/gig-pigs/id1674045788

You can get Rob's book Running Tracks here - https://www.waterstones.com/book/running-tracks/rob-deering/9781800180444 - and Paul’s award-winning 26.2 Miles to Happiness - as enjoyed and utilised by Ivo Graham - here: https://www.waterstones.com/book/26-2-miles-to-happiness/paul-tonkinson/9781472975270.

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