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The fourth trimester is a lie, and your body knows it.

In this episode, Corey and Christine sit down for a long-overdue catch-up after Christine's maternity leave from the podcast. Now six weeks postpartum with baby #4, Christine shares the realization that's reshaped how she thinks about motherhood: humans aren't built to bounce back. We're "carrier mammals," biologically wired to hold our underdeveloped babies for months after birth, and the cultural expectation to return to "normal" in 12 weeks is working against every instinct our bodies have.

Together, they unpack the three types of mammals (and why it matters for new moms), why Christine says it took her three full years to feel like herself after her last baby, and how doing postpartum #4 with real support, including family, a postpartum chef, and extra help in the home, opened her eyes to what previous postpartums had cost her. Corey and Christine also push back on mommy wine culture, talk about why the most chill moms they know are the ones with the biggest families, and reflect on six years of doing this podcast together.

✨ *Topics Covered in This Episode:*

✔️ The three types of mammals (nesting, carrier, and follower) and why humans are carriers

✔️ Why babies are essentially "born three months early" and need to be held

✔️ Christine's six-week postpartum update with baby #4

✔️ Why the fourth trimester is closer to two or three years than three months

✔️ What it's like to do postpartum with a real village vs. completely alone

✔️ Hiring a postpartum chef and why nourishment matters more than restriction

✔️ Why big-family moms are often the most joyful and relaxed

✔️ Pushing back on mommy wine culture and motherhood-as-drudgery

✔️ Corey's new cookbook *What Do I Feed These Kids?*, a real food cheat sheet

✔️ The launch of the Modern Ancestral Mamas website

✔️ Upcoming conferences in 2026, including Need Your Cure in Oxford, MS and Weston A. Price in DC

✔️ Why women were never meant to do postpartum alone

🧠 *More About This Episode:*

This episode is for any mom in the trenches of postpartum, any mother who has ever wondered why she didn't feel like herself for years after having a baby, and anyone who needs the reminder that motherhood is a calling worth celebrating, not a chore to survive. It's warm, honest, and a little nerdy about mammal biology.

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