This week, Alex is back from an eventful stint in Manhattan, and Em joins us from her holiday to talk to Sophie Butler. Soph shares how being experimental and playful with makeup and fashion has helped her become her best self. She talks about being unapologetically joyful despite the critics, and the perils of trying to be relatable.

Follow Soph on Instagram @sophjbutler

Show timestamps:

Good, Bad & Awkward - 00:03:46

Interview with Soph - 00:25:18

Is It Just Me? - 01:23:22

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Produced & edited by Daisy Grant

Music by Alex Andrew

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