To mark Transgender Awareness Week, Paul sits down with Married At First Sight’s Ella Morgan and her dad Chris for an honest conversation about identity, acceptance and family.

From navigating misunderstanding to rebuilding their relationship with love and empathy, they share what it means to live authentically and to stand by one another through change.

This episode is about courage and connection - reminding us that everyone deserves to feel safe in who they are.

(00:00) Intro

(00:44) How Paul and Ella Met

(03:05) What Is 'Dead-Naming'?

(04:56) Ella's Relationship History Before MAFS

(07:08) Safety as a Trans Person

(09:47) Ella's Dad Joins the Conversation

(10:42) How Did Chris Find Out About Ella's True Identity?

(14:34) Paul Shows Chris a Picture of Him and Ella from 2001

(16:57) How Chris Handled the Terminology After Learning Ella's True Identity

(18:00) Public Reaction to Ella Presenting as a Woman

(19:25) Ella's Experience with Gender Reassignment Surgery

(20:48) Chris' Experience of Ella's Transition Surgery

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